[Topic Change] - Trade OUT of the 2011 Draft and IN to 2012

it might cost the 14th pick to just get out of miller's contract. look at the hornets/thunder draft day trade last summer. the hornets traded the 11th pick just to get out of mopete's contract. i bet if no one morey likes falls to him they look at something like this.

 

It's pretty much already blown up besides Scola and Brad Miller. Scola could easily be moved for quality in return and Millers contract isn't as daunting as you would think.

You really can't find a rebuilding team with as much flexibility going into the future as the Rockets. Their only problem is despite "blowing it up" they are still good and that is both good and bad for obvious reasons.

 

The only reason I disagree with the OP is that, assuming a lock out will occur, the 2011 NBA draft is the last sporting event, other than those I will be actually participating in personally, that I will have the pleasure of watching until the NBA and NFL get their houses in order.

Eleventy billion games of baseball, only. /shudder

 

I say, make one good pick (moving up if possible). As for having other picks, it would be wise to trade down from #23 into the second round, where the contracts aren't guaranteed. Take the two 2nd-rounders into training camp, and if they don't stand out, cut them.

Yeah, might be better to just trade the extra picks, but I don't think it will be that easy.

 

Slighty off topic, but i wonder if the T-will trade is the first real chink in the DM amrour. The trade in itself would be one i would do 9 times out of ten ( Lottery talent for a non lottery pick) however with the hype the 2012 draft is getting im just not that sure.

In any case, Rocket Nation should be hoping for an impending NY disaster in 2012:grin:

 

I say use Scola, the 23rd and the 38th picks to try and move up to the top 5. Or if it really gets tough, use Scola, #14 and #23 instead. Try to get Enes Kanter and use the later pick on a defensive 3.

 

Yes... but we dont have to give up the pick unless we make the playoffs. Which given the fact that ( i think) we are rebuilding, we shouldnt have to worry about in 2012

 

Rockets need to trade Lowry and Lee too if they want a shot at a future top 5 pick.

 

Not in this years draft. Well, maybe Lee.

 

I think Morey should try and turn his statistical analysis prowess towards other teams, and try and forecast which teams (given a certain core of players that would not be traded) will do the worst next season, and then try and wrangle a first round pick off them. I suspect he tried to do this last season with the Knicks, which of course didn't turn out so well, but maybe he can try again this offseason.

 

I don't really believe in draft strength, I mean last year's draft was supposed to be deep too, with everyone who can come out coming out to avoid the lockout year. However this year's rookie batch seems extremely underwhelming, I can count on 1 hand the number of players who had an immediate impact on their team.

IF everybody thinks next year's draft will be crap then that's the best time to trade up because everyone is looking to trade away their 2011 pick for 2012. Players like Donatas or Kanter may be up for grabs.

 

We need to do what Seattle did they year they traded Ray Allen and did the sign and trade for Lewis.

Out side of Kyle , Pat , Goran and lee every one should be cashed in for 20 12 Draft picks or Young Mobile Bigs.

It may sound crazy but I would cash Martin in as much as I love his game for Marc Gasol or Maybe even Gortat if the over all package was right.


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This is a great idea!

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With the expected lockout, the team will not have to pay much of Miller's contract this next year, and the 3rd year only has a $100k guarantee, making it a very valuable trading piece......where teams can jettison a $5 million a year player and only be on the hook for $100k.....

I think the idea is novel, but there are no guarantees that any of the 2012 picks will pan out any better than the 2011 picks...the only given is that the experts are usually wrong.

I am just wondering how many roster spots they have available, and whether they draft a young Euro to stash him overseas while the lockout gets settled.

DD

 

Miller's contract might be a more valuable trade piece after July 1, 2012, as a "super-expiring contract." I.e. a team can trade for him, then cut him, instantly saving $5 million +. Like the Dampier contract (although not as big) that allowed Dallas to steal Tyson Chandler away from us.

 

I don't expect that Morey will be able to trade out or trade up in this draft. Some contending team that wants to keep some young guys in the pipeline might be interested in the #14 pick, but that's it. No one is going to want to pick up multiple 1st round obligations this year.

Why do you think we were able to acquire those picks so readily in the first place?

What I hope and expect is that 2 of those first rounders are used as fliers on international prospects who won't be coming over to the NBA for a few more seasons. So you can use that pick for something potentially beneficial without taking up a roster spot or payroll. But, you can monitor those guys and bring them over if they blow up, and you can trade the rights to them for other assets.

 

I still say a low risk, low cost move is to trade Miller and Thabeet to the Clippers for Kaman.

However, I can see the possibility of a deal with Indy for Miller. Indy is his home. He would want to go there. I think they've soured on Hibbert and are wanting to bring in Barac. I could see them using Miller to mentor a new guy.

 

No projected lottery center in the 2012 NBA Draft. I think we should at least manage to get one of the center in this years draft, either it be Kanter, Valanciunas or Biyombo.