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BREAKING: Rick Adelman is out as Houston Rockets coach

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by karthik.08, Apr 18, 2011.

  1. rockets934life

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    Reading between lines...REBUILDING is coming.

    Warner is an idiot...just saying.
     
  2. rockets934life

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    HAHA Warner is incredible...

    We got to the 2nd rd two years ago sir!
     
  3. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Glad to see Morey won't just lie to players. Tells them how it is.


    Poor Barry Warner with early alzheimer's. He Forgot we got out of the first round two years ago smh.
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    You're taking this far too seriously duderino, I'm loling with you, not at you.

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  5. rlmjdime

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    I don't agree with the move at all and hope that it was Rick's decision. For those of you that say it is for the better, I don't see how you can say that when a new coach hasn't been announced. Moving up from Rick doesn't look likely to happen.
     
  6. CheezeyBoy22

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    I didn't have a problem with him asking his questions. To be honest, he was the only one that was bold enough to ask tough questions. I hate our media... They suck. He did have a brain fart over the 2009 playoff series win.
     
  7. LosPollosHermanos

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    because a change is necessary you don't make a change for the sake of a change. You make a change in the right place. You don't change whats been best for you and keeping you afloat.

    Its like getting knee surgery because you have a bruised arm.
     
  8. JMAD21

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    U guys are acting like we fired him. I mean com'n, we aren't gonna win a title anytime soon and Phil is done after this year! Perfect oppertunity for adelman, he probably wanted out!
     
  9. Jimes

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    I would thank Coach Adelman if I could for all his work the past 4 seasons to make us an entertaining and competitive team given all the injuries. When we had a healthy Yao, we finally won a playoff series after a long drought.

    Count me as one who is discouraged by this move and is getting more disenchanted with the owner (and a little with DM who I am a big fan of).

    I think the people supporting the firing are doing it for opposing reasons:
    1) Rick sucks, and we need a better coach. A better coach would have had us competing for a championship one of these past four years.
    2) Rick is too good, we need a different coach who will lose more games so we will have better draft picks.
    3) Rick has his ways which differ from Morey or Les's ways. A different coach would be ok with lots of lineup tinkering or trading veterans away for a young, potential talent. A different coach would play the young players more even if he didn't think it would lead to more wins. The young players could develop faster and lead to more wins in the future or having better assets to trade.

    I think 1 is foolish (best winning % of Rockets coaches; even when just one of Yao/Mac was finally healthy, we finally got out of the first round and started off well against the Lakers), 2 is underhanded and very risky (if it works we have at least 2 or 3 years crappy years to look forward to and if it doesn't, who knows how many?), and 3 is somewhere between questionable and good. 3 is the hardest to know anything about though since we don't know what goes on in practice and we're not players having been under different coaches with their different styles. The players think he's doing a good job.

    If 3 is the answer, I don't get why we hired Adelman in the first place. Did they not know this would be a problem? Also, we've seen the first half of this season that some of our players with "potential" actually hurt their trade value. And to accuse him of never developing the young players is not true anyway.

    The only way I see this as good is that the young players like T-Will, C-Bud Hill, and Patterson do develop through more PT, and we can package them with veterans to land a superstar. We lose a lot of games on the way during this learning process, but a trade turns things around ($ball!). (We are not going to win the lottery with players like Lowry, Hayes, KMart, & Scola so y'all can forget that unless we trade most of them away.) And hopefully Adelman gets on a contender where he can flourish.

    Ideally, we would have been able to see what happens with the salary cap and then have resolved the Yao situation first, because if he would be willing to come back for a very low price, and we had cap space left, we could try to trade for a FA or up in the draft and have another go at it with Adelman. The timing didn't work out though, unfortunately. As is, I hope Morey has an ace up his sleeve with all these mid to low draft picks.

    I would agree with a few others that this organization is likely developing a reputation of not being coach-friendly. Even though we hired you knowing about your past, if we grow tired of your style, we'll fire you. If we like your style, but you don't play the players we want you to play, we'll fire you. If don't compete for a championship even though your highest paid player(s) are injured, we'll fire you.

    The coach's job should be to win as best he knows how, mostly focusing on the now and some on the later. Management better make sure the next coach is on the same page as they are as to how that should look.
     
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    Why doesn't Alexander just coach the team if he insists who to play anyway? If he and his gm know better basketball than Adelman then hey, they should just do it themselves.

    The problem, I surmise, with "parting" with three straight winning coaches is that Alexander might think he and his gm know more than they do about basketball. Alexander bought a championship team and thought that it was because of him that the team won those two championships.

    This is not an empty theory since, as I stated in one of my previous posts, gm Krause and owner Reinsdorf of the Bulls dynasty seemed to have had this mindset too when they fired Phil Jackson. The result was a long period of turmoil and mediocrity. I think this is where the Rockets are today.
     
  11. B-Bob

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    This. That really boils it down for me.

    DonnyMost has made some persuasive posts on this topic, and we truly have to rebuild, but:

    * giving Rick a chance at a ring should in no way be our priority as fans (or for the Rockets organization.)
    * assuming how many years he has left is kind of weird
    * he's a good rebuilder
    * he's great at player development, as I pointed out in a previous post covering us, his Kings teams, and his Trail Blazers teams.

    Ultimately, I believe it was mutual, and there's no use crying anymore over the spilt milk.

    Rick: "I want to stay, and I love this team, but I have to be more involved in personnel decisions. I have to at least be in the loop."

    Les (DM): "Rick, we love having you here, and you've done a phenomenal job, but the personnel will be all Daryl, in occasional conversation with you. Just can't guarantee more input than that.
    Plus, please consider we're headed for a rebuilding process, big time. We'll probably have some roster shake-up this summer, and the next summer, etc. Sometimes I think you deserve better."

    Rick: "Okay, I guess that's it then."

    Les: "I guess so."

    (handshake)
     
  12. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    No. We are not a bruised arm. We have something torn that we can play with and be ok wit but we still need survey eventually and Morey wants to change now.
     
  13. conquistador#11

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    I hope that truly is the case. In every other scenario, it's just a hooorrible decision to let Adelman go. we're not winning champioships so we have to move on and let the championship caliber coach walk? For being an MIT Grad, today's press conference by Daryl was extremely weak.


    "we're committed to winning championships":rolleyes:

    I was not aware that Rick was also hired to be GM.
     
  14. Rockzilla

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    Hopefully Rockets can go out and get a coach who will actually teach his team how not to be p*****s and how to play good defense.
     
  15. LosPollosHermanos

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    that was one of the consoling things. I'm glad we didn't just spit on his face, but it wasn't just that morey would have a small say, theres no problem with that, its the fact that they have repeatedly kept him out of the loop, and he wants to be in on what to expect and prepare for as well rather then getting hit with news of having to make a complete rotational change one morning.

    Don't forget that battier wasn't informed about it for a while either, someone else told him about the trade. The shadiness isn't right , and it being a deciding factor doesn't surprise me.
     
  16. rockets934life

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    I agree in that out media sucks but Warner gets a bit personal and his questions are often irrelevant. I felt his questions didn't add anything to the theme of the press conference except try to prove his point. I like when Wexler and MJax are at these pressers because they ask question we all want answered not just the individual.
     
  17. RocketsPimp

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    I hate to burst the bubble of an otherwise good post, but this part is exactly what is happening now. We don't have any top notch stars and we're getting a new coach that doesn't know this team. These aren't his guys and frankly, I'm confident that at least 2 of the 4 guys you mentioned won't be here in 2-3 years.
     
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    Adelman never got a complete roster with the constant injuries to Yao and Mac, now he's taking the blame & responsibility for that???
     
  19. Deckard

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    I didn't know that a 64 year old coach was "on his last legs" and had only "2 or 3 years left." Hell, I wish I looked as good as "ancient" Rick Adelman.
     
  20. J.R.

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    So Kubes, what's your excuse this week?
    :p

    Haha get that old man off the air.
     

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