BREAKING: Rick Adelman is out as Houston Rockets coach

What happens to Martin now? He was brought in to play with Yao as well, and with dwindling chances of that event I imagine Kevin is going to be traded soon. Dallas wanted him right? Same goes for Brad Miller.

Although,

the team still hasn't decided on what members of the coaching staff will remain, so does that mean that if some are retained the Rockets will continue to run some of Adelman's offensive sets? In that case maybe Martin and Miller won't be going anywhere.

 

Go through this thread. It's been talked about pretty vividly. The crux of it is we are in a rebuilding phase. Adelman was not fired for his performance, he was fired because the dynamic of this team is changing. Take note, players will be traded and the face of this team will change greatly over the course of the next two to three years. The company is headed in a different direction, and as amazing as Rick Adelman is, he does not fit with the new model. It's sad, but it's a business...

 

Pretty big question.

Martin has not had much success out of Adelman's system...

 

Yeah i think Martin gets traded... both to help us sucking this next year ( higher pick ) and also to improve our future directly.... Lee gets more time and whatever we recieve from the team that we trade him to .

 

Note to league, if you want Martin, you also have to take Brad.

:grin:

 

What worries me is that they're going to go with a different kind of coach...one that doesn't connect as well with players...even JVG had that.


They better get one hell of a coach because if these players aren't impressed they're going to half-ass it out there. I never thought i'd say that about this team, but they may want to drive a point home with the front office. A lot has been made about RA vs the FO, but there's a players vs FO issue as well and it only got worse today.

 

Honestly, it'll hinge upon how we fair in the draft. If teams ahead of us feel like this years talent isn't quite what they're looking for, I could see teams swapping a pick and Martin for us. If I had to pick three players that won't get traded I could see us retaining Lowry, Chuck (God willing he returns and at the right price) and possibly ... I don't know. I can't pick a third. Martin and Miller's days as Rockets are numbered, they will last until someone calls up and offers something decent.

 

Because he's been injured..otherwise he's done well. His shooting touch and fakes/flops dont depend on RA.

 

I would prefer teams to take Scola off her hands before the contract becomes worthless and start a young hungry Patterson

 

I don't know how getting rid of RA is a step towards a new direction, having a good coach doesn't interfere with rebuilding. I mean it's not like Adelman absolutely refuses to play young players, Lowry, AB, Bud, Patpat all flourished under him. The only one not getting minutes is TWill. Hell even dumb dumb JHill got a lot of minutes which I feel he did not deserve.

What is this new model anyways, and why doesn't Adelman fit it.

 

True, but he's more effective in a motion offense. If say...Mike Brown is the coach...a guy who doesn't seem to know much about offense honestly. I think he'd take a hit performance wise.

 

I think Martin will be traded, Miller also, Scola maybe
Les will ask the new coach to play C.Lee, 2Pat, Twill

 

Wtf? Did you just go from talking to the lakers series to the entire season?

That team was built around Yao, the reason you specifically cited the lakers and got the response you got is because he was out for the majority.

Way to change variables put into question and twist it to prove a non existent point.

 

He may not directly interfere... but he not gonna tank and get a top pick... he is gonna try to win every possible game. And when you are rebuilding you absolutely need high lottery picks to have any chance at doing it quickly. And its not that he refuses to play young players .. but he would much rather play veterans to try to win a meaningless game than to let young players play. The case in point was the last game of the season.... he played Brad Miller for like 25 minutes and Hill for only 10. Sure it doesnt make a whole lot of difference at that point ... but young players run off of condifence and he absolutely shattered any that Hill had by constantly reducing his minutes at the end of the season ... even when he was playing better. The new model is to suck for a year and get a nice high pick and that wont happen under Adelman

 

From what I've inferred from the plethora of speculation the new model is something where the Rockets pull away from the win-now mentality. It might not be just that we are going in a new direction, it could be that management and Adelman do not see eye to eye on what the keys to success are. Adelman did not agree with a lot of our trades, and Morey may want to pull away from the Princeton Offense. Like I said, it's pure speculation, all I can say for certain is that we need a change. I don't know what the magic formula is, all I can say is what we currently have is not that formula. The easiest thing to do is take it apart piece by piece and put it together again in a different way. The easiest piece to pull out is the coach. At least they are trying something, instead of sitting back accepting mediocrity.

 

Here's the tape of the conversation between Adelman and Morey:

Morey: "My decision is to trade anybody that pleases me...your job is to coach...and shut up."

Adelman: "f .....uu"

Morey: "....."

Adelman: "Are you losing your mind...Aaron Brooks and Battier (our captain)?"

Morey: (dialing Les's #): "This bozo is interfering with my decision in doing trade...he needs to go after this season."

Les: "I'll think about Mr. Morey"

 

only a hand full of coaches could have kept the team competitive during all the adversity that adelman dealt with. but this stage of his career and the rockets stage of team development don't match up. the rockets need to rebuild, and adelman needs to win now. sucks taking a HUGE step back, but its probably mutually beneficial.

as for the next coach the rockets need someone young who can grow with the team. keep in mind that even an elite coach like adelman could only get us just above 500. with a lesser coach we can expect a pretty bad record. that said, the rockets dont have to go after the best coach they can find, they need to go after one with the most potential. guys like sloan, jvg, svg, larry brown, or even mike brown doesn't make sense.

my list looks something like this:
1. brad stevens (butler head coach) - again, doesn't have to be the best coach now, because we are probably going to have a losing record anyway. this guy has the most potential and has plenty of time to grow with the team.

2. dwane casey / mike budenholzer - great to steal from the mavs or spurs.

3. brian shaw / lawrence frank - top assistants to championship coaches.

4. ellie / cassell / kenny smith - i think they all have great potential as a head coach, plus the fans would get behind it very quickly.

 

I agree. Tack on Miller with Martin and let Rick Adelman's new team get them.

Luckily Martin will have a long offseason to slowly cut his ties with Houston and fans.
And lucky for the Rockets his trade value is at an all-time high

I just can't imagine going back to watching ugly ball after the beauty of this year's offense (latter half of the season). Sigh

 

Uhhh guys, morey has coveted Martin for YEARS. Hes not going to trade the 'statistical Dream' just because Adleman is out he door.

 

he traded for j-kidd with out looking at how their roster was balanced with Devin Harris. It was his style of play that pushed guys like Josh Howard forward and to all star potential.

Same thing with the suns, they thought a guy like shaq puts up good numbers defensively but I don't understand how stupid you have to be to take their style of play out of context.