Given there are a few "superheros" related threads and that I was talking to a friend about this earlier, who do you guys want to protect the earth if we are ever invaded by alieans Justice League off the top of my head Superman Batman Flash Wonderwoman Green Lantern Martian manhunter The Avengers Iron man Hulk Thor Antman that bee chick Captain America Hopefully, this wont turn into a DC vs Marvel thread!!
Easily the DC cast of characters. Their powers are way stronger than the Marvel ones. Many of the Marvel characters merely have Olympian-level skills/reaction times/etc. e.g. Captain America. Superman on the other hand is otherworldly and god-like in ability.
Justice League in a heartbeat, even though I was a Marvel guy growing up. The only two Avengers that are game changers are Thor and The Hulk. The rest are far inferior to the JLA counterparts. Superman by himself is really an entire superhero team. You add mega heavyweights like Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter and Green Lantern to the mix and there is literally no comparison between the two teams. Throw in Flash and the Avengers are fainting in their pee soaked pajamas. After all that, you give them genius like Batman with unlimited financial support and maybe a braniac doctor like The Atom? With the exception of Thor and Hulk, if Superman was looking at JLA applications of the rest of the Avengers he'd assume they were applying to clean the Watchtower.
After Captain America performs a feat of strength by throwing a car, Superman giggles and moves Mars off of it's orbital track. /Captain America faints
+1 Exactly what I was thinking. Thor would be the most powerful of the 12 guys listed, but after him, there's a steep drop on the Avengers side.
Avengers. It's all about Thor. He's got magic, and can easily eliminate Superman, who has a vulnerability to magic. The other two heavy hitters are Hulk and Iron Man. The X factor on JLA is Green Lantern, really. I suppose he could turn the tables, but it's doubtful.
Iron Man is not a heavy hitter. The only JLA member he might be able to take would be Batman. He wouldn't last 30 seconds against anyone else. Hulk is an idiot, and brute strength will only get you so far w/o the intellect to properly use it. And I don't think Thor's powers are magical. They're based on the same principles as Wonder Woman's.
Thor isn't magic. He shoot's lightning but he isn't magic. Hulk COULD be the strongest guy on the list if he got mad enough, but like the other guy said brute strength is nada against Superman, he'd never catch him....and if Hulk got too out of line, lobotomy time.
Thor Explained (link) He's a god. He's magic, his powers are magic. On top of that, he's strong enough to go toe to toe with Superman anyway. Also, a good article on the fight: link The Mighty Thor and Superman are the heavy-hitters of Marvel and DC respectively, each of them arguably the most powerful hero in their respective universes. So its natural that this is without question the most discussed versus debate amongst comic book fans. No other versus battle comes close to being talked about as much than this one. Try to start a “Superman vs Thor” thread on any forum and the first response is sure to be: “Not this again”. Some of you may remember our “Top 10 Most Powerful Superheroes” list that we released a while back, where we made the controversial claim that Thor was the most powerful superhero of all time (Superman coming in at number three on that list). Months later we are still receiving emails either agreeing with us, or flaming us for that decision. Many fans cite Superman’s speed as the deciding factor in any fight between the two behemoths. Other emails claim that Thor’s magical powers would be enough to stop the man of steel in his tracks. So, the natural question is, do we still stand by our claim that Thor is more powerful than Superman? The answer is still “yes.” In this article we’ll break down the seven most common arguments and give you our take on them. 1. Super Strength The claim has often been made that Superman is stronger than Thor. Many times on versus forums threads this claim is accepted as a given by both sides of the debate. We don’t concede that the Man of Steel is physically stronger than the god of thunder though. Thor has performed feats such as lifting the World Serpent, and once hurled the Odinsword, an enormous mystical blade, through a Celestial! Thor has also single-handedly matched the strength of the Hulk on numerous occasions (the Marvel Universe’s strongest character). Not only that but Thor is capable of entering into a state known as the “Warrior’s Madness”, which will temporarily increase his strength tenfold. Some of these feats have no true equivalent in the DC universe. We think at the very least, the two character’s physical strength is equal. Winner: Draw _______________________________________________________________________________ 2. Super Speed This is Superman’s one true advantage in this fight. Superman is fast. We’re talking warp speed fast. We’re talking once around the entire planet and back before you can blink fast. You could easily make the argument that Thor would be lucky if he even saw Superman before he got pounded. But is Thor as slow as everyone seems to think? Unknown to many DC fanboys Thor can throw his hammer at the speed of light (See Thor#140, Thor#274). He can also swing it at TWICE the speed of light (Journey Into Mystery#102). In Thor -#393- it’s established that the speed of Thor’s hammer TRANSCENDS both TIME & SPACE. In addition Thor can appear anywhere across the Universe or other dimensions in just seconds (see- FF#339, and Thor#166). And, most importantly, Thor could, visually, detect objects that move at fantastic speeds (this happened when Thor was the target of artillery fire- see Invaders#33- and Avengers-#281- when he saw the speedy Hermes. And yes, I do need a life). Now if we accept that Superman can move at 99% of the speed of light, and that Thor can swing his hammer at twice the speed of light, it stands to reason that big blue is in some trouble. It’s true that Thor doesn’t use his super speed abilities often, but how many times have you seen Superman not use his super speed when he should have? Winner: Superman ________________________________________________________________________________ 3. Stamina Who can take more punishment, Thor or Superman? This is a difficult question. Thor has withstood a blast from Asgardian Destroyer. Superman has withstood a direct hit from a nuclear bomb. Thor has taken everything the Hulk could dish out. Thor also once took a glancing hit by a Doomsday Bomb that was capable of destroying an entire planet, and soon after that explosion he fell from space (leaving a crater miles wide) to a planet called Pangoria-see Thor#387. Thor has also taken everything that Gladiator (an arguably more powerful version of Superman) could dish out. Both characters have come back from the dead a couple of times. Both characters have approximately the same stamina. But the deciding factor is that Superman has weaknesses (i.e. Kryptonite, Magic, and the fact he is powerless without yellow sunlight) whereas Thor pretty much doesn’t. Winner: Thor ________________________________________________________________________________ 4. Magic Even the most diehard Superman fan would concede that Thor’s magical abilities would be an advantage for Thor. First, I would like to note that just because an opponent can wield magic, it in no way guarantees a win over the last son of Krypton. Superman has defeated countless magic users in the past, and so I have no illusions that just because Thor has magic powers and a magic hammer that he would automatically own Superman. That being said magic is just as lethal against Supes as kryptonite. Superman has no defense against it, and it can affect him greatly. Superman getting pounded by Mjolnir is the same as you and me getting pounded by a normal hammer. And consider the guy who’s swinging it. It’s Thor. The god of thunder. Not only that, but Thor’s lightning is magical too. Remember that just a single lightning bolt is equivalent to 15,000,000 volts of electricity and could travel over 224,000 miles an hour. The clear advantage here goes to Thor. Winner: Thor ________________________________________________________________________________ 5. Super Powers Before Thor inherited the Odinforce, the super powers of these two heroes were a little more even. Now there is absolutely no contest. Thor has a clear edge over Superman here. His magical hammer gives Thor the ability to control the weather, the ability to fly; energy projection and absorption; dimensional apertures; matter manipulation, as well as the most powerful of his offensive powers: the God Blast, and the Anti-Force. Superman is no push over in this department either, with the already mentioned super strength, super speed, as well as heat vision, x-ray vision, enhanced senses, and the ability to blow hurricane force winds from his mouth. But what is that compared to being able to summon an actual hurricane? Not only that but with the Odinforce Thor was then capable of feats such as reconstructing the Earth’s Moon, willing the Asgardian monster Mangog into nothingness, and by focusing his entire power into a hammer throw that even decapitated a Desak-occupied Asgardian Destroyer. Having accepted his heritage as the son of the earth goddess Gaea, he has recently been shown to be capable of opening chasms in the earth itself, and who knows what other abilities he’ll be displaying now that he’s done that. Winner: Thor ________________________________________________________________________________ 6. Superman beat Thor in the Avengers / DC Crossover I don’t want to spend much time on this one. Most fans of comics know how much weight we should give to crossovers. Besides, I personally have no doubt that Superman would beat Galactus in a crossover. He’s DC’s flagship character after all. Enough said on that one. Winner: Superman by default ________________________________________________________________________________ 7. Thor has Thousands of Years of Combat Experience This is a common argument used by Thor fans to claim that Thor would take down Superman. It seems fairly obvious. If I somehow gained super powers and a Viking Warrior somehow gained the exact same or nearly equivalent powers, most people would put their money on the Viking if we fought each other. Now imagine the Viking warrior was thousands of years older than me, and had been using his powers for all those thousands of years to battle trolls, giants, demons, robots, aliens, and gods, and I have only been using my powers for 20-30 years. It seems clear to me that the Viking Warrior god has a clear cut advantage over me in a fight. Again advantage Thor. Winner: Thor ________________________________________________________________________________ It seems obvious to me that Thor has a clear advantage over Superman in a fight. I don’t think that Thor is so powerful that there is no way that Superman could ever defeat him. But I believe that the majority of the time Thor would beat Superman in a one on one fight, assuming its not a fight to the death. If it is a fight to the death, then I think Thor would almost invariably win...............
Like I stated, Thor is a game changer for the Avengers, but the problem is the JLA is full of game changers. It really comes down to who is left after the first five minutes. On the Avengers side, Iron Man, Captain America, Wasp, and Antman are all dead or disabled pretty quickly. None of them having anything for the JLA. On the JLA side I'll go ahead and set aside "Comic Rules" and say that Batman gets thumped. So you are left with Hulk and Thor against Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Flash and Green Lantern. It would be epically violent and a lot of buildings would get smashed, but in the end the JLA has too much power.
Martian Manhunter is almost as strong as Superman, and Wonder Woman is up there too. GL fights galactic aliens... I wonder who'd win between him and Nova.
It's crazy that you guys are dismissing Iron Man. 100 tons is the 'uber' point in the Marvel Universe. Iron Man is capable of this, so if it's a slugfest, he can knock some foos out. link Weapons The Iron Man armor includes Tony’s primary energy weapon, repulsor rays, a powerful particle beam which is standard equipment in the palms of his armor; the repulsor ray can repel physical and energy-based attacks, traveling as either a single stream or as a wide-field dispersal. The armor has also been outfitted with pulse bolts (extremely powerful plasma discharges which grow in strength as they seek their target), sonic generators, explosive shell projectiles, mini-missiles, magnetic field generators and a laser torch built into the finger of Tony’s gauntlet. The armor’s surface can generate an electric charge to dispel attackers. Paraphernalia Tony’s most recent armor is protected by an energy-draining shield which expands from the gauntlets, as well as a personal deflector shield. The armor grants Tony superhuman strength (lifting 100 tons at maximum power). Its Jet boots enable flight at Mach 8; he can also hover utilizing a localized gravity field. The armor’s internal air supply lasts more than one hour and can be sealed for travel through low oxygen, underwater or outer space environments. The armor also features a chronometer, radar, sonar, a magnometer, an atom-force microscope, photon, heat, motion and other sensor instruments. The armor contains a subspace/satellite radio communications array which receives local radio and video signals; the armor can also jam transmissions. The chest plate features the unibeam, a powerful searchlight that can project beams in virtually every light spectrum (visible, infrared and ultraviolet); it also features a laser beam projector, an EMP (electromagnetic pulse) generator which can shut down electronic devices within a 50-yard radius, a scanning device that travels along energy waves emitted from the unibeam and a holographic generator. More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/universe/Iron_Man_(Anthony_Stark)#ixzz1Jt388x84
Bingo. I'm siding with DC in this fight for the same reason I didn't read them very much growing up. Unstoppable heroes. Manhunter is basically Superman with shapshifting+telepathy+invisibility+doesn't like fire!!!1! Wonder Woman is basically Superman -heatvision+boobs-2 calories of strength. Thor vs Superman is a contest, Thor vs Superman and his overpowered friends isn't. This isn't even account for Flash who moves at speeds faster than the speed of light. Think about that. Superman moves at that kind of speed as well, though not quite as fast.
Superman: LOL you can lift a spern whale? Hahaha hold on a second while I fly across the universe in two seconds and return with a meteor to slap you with.
Yeah, it's an unwinnable argument. Superman trumps everything with his limitless powers (in the minds of casual fans). This link pretty much sums that up. Partial quote: The Super Friends always forgot they had powers, but with Superman it was different. It wasn't like when Hawkman forgot he could fly, or when Wonder Dog forgot to pee on the mailman. Those guys could do one thing each. Superman had at least 150 powers, and the writers were making up two or three more every episode. If a script called for it, Superman would leak paste out of his ears that can control the weather. His fingernails might cure cancer and create food, he may never remember. (the entire site is a funny read)
