Are you happy with the way Les is running Rockets?

rhetorical question?

I don't think it takes much to realize he was seen as a mediocre owner at his best, so what he is now is something I'd rather not overstate.

 

You can click "thread tool", and add a poll by yourself.

 

Eh... I need some time away from the situation to process it. Right now I'm fuming mad, but that's more the emotional attachment to the team and the disappointment I have in this season. I just feel like we've made tons and tons of lateral moves. In the end all we've done is barely stay afloat. We aren't the LA Clippers, but we also aren't the LA Lakers. The people Les has stacked this organization with are amazing, but at the same token the formula doesn't work. Does that mean fire Adelman and/or Morey? I don't know (nor am I commenting that either one will or won't be fired). There are a lot of factors at play here, and in this labyrinth of decisions it's easy to get lost or sidetracked by emotion. If a poll was present I would look for an option of "ask me again in 6 months".

I know, that is a cop out, but what can I say. I was a fan of Aaron Brooks. I was a fan of Ish Smith. I am a fan of Shane Battier. When they were all traded I was pissed off, but in due time I saw the necessity of those trades. The same went for Carl Landry, heck, I can go as far back as Robert Horry and Sam Cassell. I know, different leadership and a different team, but you catch my drift. Seeing people you like come and go is hard.

At the end of the day the Rockets need to try something different. If we have a worse season we might be able to gamble on the draft. If we have an improved season we see some playoff action, but in keeping the current personal we will get the same results every year. Some people have to go. Some might be lucky enough to stay. I can't blame Les for any of this, but it doesn't mean I won't try.

 

This.

Can't be afraid of change, especially when the plan is to change a team that struggles to get the 8th seed.

I think Les has some big to make the change. Unlike other owners in Houston that own a certain NFL franchise where the owner is terrified of making a bold move like this.

 

The Rocket's TV ad with Les clutching to NBA trophies makes me want to puke. He bought a championship team and has done nothing productive since. Also I am not convinced Morey is as great as many of you think. What has he really done? Now if Les' goal is to build expectations, sell tickets, but not really have a playoff team where the players demand huge fortunes he is on target and so is Morey. But if his plan is to challenge for a championship they are going nowhere. The second half Rockets were entertaining, but they are stuck in neutral. Very frustrating and has been very frustrating since the mid nineties. Is Les a great owner, no way. I would rate him as C-.

 

I think Morey has done a decent job. I do however wonder if he would be slightly more effective if somebody tempered him once and a while. It's like House and Cuddy. Morey is House. Methodical, removed, always trying to crack the puzzle. I think he'd be more effective if there was a Cuddy in place. Of course, it might also be I just watch too much House...

 

agreed, but a bit harsh towards morey. Is he over rated? Yes.

But he is good/decent GM. A lot of people wonder why ex-players take on the job like dumars and Mitch Kupchack, its because of their ability to take on the role of the players their trying to best and negotiate with

 

It's also because they are old and the only thing they really did well in their lives was basketball. See Michael Jordan. You can see, the guy really misses the game and wants so badly just to put the jersey back on and just play. He's living vicariously through the team he owns. Heck, that's most of the reason why he participated in a Bobcat's practice this season.

But I do get what you're saying. These former athletes do have an edge over the rest. I remember Morey discussing this somewhere, but I can't place my finger on it.

 

How often are fans really happy with the owner of a pro sports team, not very often. Les Alexander, Bob McNair, Drayton McLaine, none of them are winning any popularity contests. If you look at pro sports team owners around the U.S., you will see that most of the time the fans are unhappy with the way they are running the team.

 

This whole Adelman thing is frustrating me at the moment... so no. That and it seems like he is pressuring/limiting Morey as well. Oh, and his laugh --- or rather, cackle --- is annoying.

 

I'm definitely not an opponent of change. But, the problem isn't the coach or the GM. It's the lack of elite talent on the team. I'm down for some changes. But, if Les thinks changing the coach is the way to go, then I wholeheartedly disagree and thinks he will be making a major mistake. We were fortunate to find an adequate replacement for Rudy T in JVG and a HOF replacement for JVG in Adelman. The odds are stacked against us in finding a sufficient replacement yet again.

 

But to a certain degree if neither the coach nor the GM can attract talent of that level an owner is forced to sit back and wonder why that is.

The only problem I see in firing Rick is that the coach who comes in might be more tempted to play it safe. Unless a coach feels like he will get unwavering support (or he is ballsy as hell) he won't make certain plays, subs, so on and so forth that could potentially get him fired elsewhere. If we just find another jockey who falls in line with Morey and/or Les we will be getting Rick Adelman lite. Think about not playing Thabeet, Twill, Ish (heavily), basically any rookie. It stems for a need to play it safe. When we are winning or have a potential to win, playing it safe is the way to go, but when we are struggling for 8th place 2 years straight all bets are off. This transition of coaches needs to be handled delicately. If Rick is replaced, the guy coming in needs to be given freedom to take this team in a different direction. Blindly playing the rookies, or blindly playing our vets does nothing.

 

I'm okay with change. The problem I have with Les is how he ruins the relationship with the coach when he decides to part away by what seems like some unreasonable expectation that he has set. This bother me because I think that will hurt the organization in the long run. First it was how Rudy T. situation was handled. Then he blamed JVG for things such as attendance etc. And now Rick...

 

99% happy with Les. Owner's rarely affect their teams outside of cutting the budget -- Les has given our front office free reign to buy draft picks as they see fit. Can't ask for much more.*


*outside of getting rid of two HOF coaches...

 

It was a worthwhile gamble to go with Yao and McGrady to try to win big. Too bad they both crapped out healthwise. I think he is making a mistake if he lets Adelman go just to save a few bucks. If he is just going to go totally young and do a modified tank and Adelman doesn't want to be part of it, I can then understand not retaining Rick.

Overall Les is not a bad owner, probably in the top quarter. Short of just complete house cleaning the Rockets have tried constantly to make big deals to improve. Drexler, Barkley, Pippen, McGrady, Francis, etc.

I guess there are a few cases in which he might have turned down some good deals just due to trying to save cap money, but as we have seen in NY and other venues just spending alone doesn't always work either.

 

Adelman's a great coach, and I'd be happy to keep him forever. But until we get some honest-to-God all-stars on the team, it's just not going to matter much who the coach is: The Rockets will stay mediocre. We're going to need high draft picks to either gamble in the lottery or trade for veteran talent. Adelman was brought to Houston and paid well to coach TMac and Yao deep into the playoffs, not rebuild a team. I think if Morey had been able to swing a big-time player in the last couple of years, Alexander would be thinking more seriously about signing Adelman to a new contract. But as it is, his contract is now up and the Rockets are not close to being a contender. It may take a lot of losing before the Rockets start to get lucky, and Rick is too old, too good, and makes too much money to captain a ship sailing into the unknown. The Rockets may well need someone a little crazier.

Luckily, there are lots of good basketball coaches out there. You're either rising or falling in the NBA. We hired Adelman after he was fired from somewhere else. There will be good coaches banging on doors for a job this very off-season and beyond.

 

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I'm so angry right now it's not even funny. Looking at the offensive output we've had this year, #1 in assists, #4 offense, all with chuck and battier. The missing piece of the puzzle? ADELMAN. If Adelman on his own wanted to leave and refused to sign then I would be fine with that. But when it's at the point that the PLAYERS are actually requesting to keep the coach, and the dumbass owner doesn't realize that there are not only no better coaches available, but that Adelman is not the reason that we were losing, then we are truly screwed. The worst part is, Les can't be fired. FML.

 

Les has the team stuck on the mediocrity treadmill.

Its not gunna end unless he changes something or we get the star player we've been searching for.

Morey has filled up our team with great "assets". its time for us to use those assets to get some contenders. Assets don't win championships.

LMB