Martin to Morey: Treating us like assets gets you nowhere

Then go watch children's YMCA games. If Martin has a problem with the Rockets being active in the Carmelo sweepstakes, he needs to find a new team to play for. I fully support our GMs attempts at getting us off the mediocrity treadmill.

 

Honestly, I don't want anyone bull****ting. I want each and everybody to speak their real minds. That's one thing I like about Tmac. He didn't sugarcoat anything, we knew exactly how he really felt about certain things. Think about, if he just said the "right things" and kept it generic, he might still be here taking up a spot.

Why do people want to hear only what they want to hear and listen to cookie cutter answers? Booooring.

 

Many NBA players are too young and they are emotional. They have the talent to get paid anywhere in the league. This is the reality. You cannot assume anything here.

Getting traded from Rockets is a good thing for a lot of them because they can still ball anywhere else, might be in better situation.
Why do they care if they know they don't belong the Rockets?

 

Just having fun, so, in the first place, wouldn't the team be winning if they don't have those two problems?

After reading a lot of the threads and posts on this board, it is sad but bemusing to realize the kind of thoughts developed through a period of about seventeen years where the team has only won one playoff series.

It is amazing how some fans would wish to keep on with this situation. This reminds me of the Chicago Cubs and their fans.

 

Honestly what scares me about this is that why would any free agent ever consider the Rockets if this is the attitude of the front office?

 

If you were a superstar, would you want to sign a contract with a team which has this attitude towards players? You have a GM who keeps saying "nobody is untradable" and you have the best player on the team saying that "90% of the team feels like assets."

I like Morey, I feel that he is the best we can get right now, but he needs to stop hanging the dirty laundry in public. It only hurts the team more than it helps the team imo.

 

Daryl Morey gets asked point blank things like, "who on the roster is untouchable?"

Unless he's going to outright dodge the question, he's pretty much left with:

1. Everyone is untouchable.
2. A few/some/most players are untouchable.
3. No one is untouchable.

1 is the only one that could theoretically put players minds at ease, and of course it is obviously BS.

2 seems more damaging to morale than 3, as it breaks unity by suggesting that there are certain players that he is trying to get rid of.

3 is really the least offensive as it puts all players in the same boat together and states to everyone that, "we like you, you're all on the team for a reason, but if we can dish you for LeBron, sorry yo." It's also the truth, and being dishonest is certainly a poor strategy in relationship management.

Any suggestions on a more tactful way to field a question like this?

 

"We are always looking to get better as a team and we will do our due dilligence if any proposals come our way, but we are not actively looking to move anyone on our roster."

"Yea but who specifically would you never trade"

"We are always looking to get better as a team and we will do our due dilligence if any proposals come our way, but we are not actively looking to move anyone on our roster."

Its called public relations.

 

I have been a strong Morey supporter. But I have to agree that the good run after the deadline wasn't so much about Morey forcing Adelman to play the right players but that the players could finally concentrate on playing basketball without the distraction of possible trades.

 

They will consider Rockets if they are old, slow or bad.

 

I dont even really think its Morey as much as the emergence of social media.

 

Maybe the sad reality for the players is they got shopped and nobody wanted them.

Kevin forgot to say that part of the reason he played some bad games was because RA couldn't figure out the minutes between him and AB, not because they knew they could be traded.

Last year, DM went out of his way to say we are only trading TMac and then everyone got surprised when Landry had to be moved as collateral damage in the deal.

This year, everyone was on the trading block. I don't know, it should make everyone play harder to prove one's worth on the team.

Anyway, we end the season raising the value of our players like KM, CB, PP. Expect some trades.

 

Ok so what is your point?

 

we always looking to trade someone thats why...i mean i fyall were in there shoes ahhh forget it..i might get traded neways...like ariza..such and such..jt...did alot of trades..i mean Trade deadlien was ok...but hopefully we wont trade to much..plus Kevin martin is a good player..hes a quiet scorer and hes behind KOBE...so you cant really talk down on him...hope he stays with us for quite some time rest of his career and keep his scoring like this and better

 

Has DMorey ever had the opportunity to re-sign an unrestricted free agent like he can with Chuck this year?

 

Nothing wrong with Martin asking for a better work environment. He probably should have not discussed it with the media, but then again, he has an issue with Morey discussing trades with the media.

This is not the first time that a player has expressed concern over the deadline, or contracts: Scola, Battier, Brooks and others.

I expect Morey and Martin to iron it out. Keep in mind, ALL of these players wanted to STAY on the Rockets, so the work environment isn't too bad.

 

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I will.

I wanted to comment though.

I absolutely understand Morey's comments "We're always trying to get better." That is his job. The one thing he could have changed was what he always said after that "Everyone is trade-able."

The fact that Scola, Hayes, and Martin have all made comments about how it was a distraction makes the point pretty clear. Part of our resurgence the last two years after the all star break/dead line was about removing that distraction from the mix.

When you feel like you are about to be "downsized" or in the Rockets case traded your work performance suffers. I think Carl mentioned it in the beginning. As much as they know the score, the players are human, and the fact that every time their GM is asked about trades he says "make an offer, everyone is on the table" it is a distraction.

Morey has to better utilize the PR machine he has running and publicly say more of a public "we like our team the way it is" rather than "we're always trying to upgrade" - I think it will make a big difference.

Now I'm off to read the whole thread.

 

i find nothing wrong with being honest, i was just pointing out the hypocrisy of clutchfans

 

Well for one thing NBA players are making millions of dollars and getting first class treatment everywhere, so I would like to think the stress they receive from knowing they could be traded anytime shouldn't be too big. I mean, "Boo-hoo! Instead of making 12M in Houston, I make 12M in Memphis" Really?

Its not that Morey has been sending memos saying they will be traded to the players on a daily basis, most of the time he is just responding to reporters who ask him who is untouchable in the team or what the overall plan of the team was. Unless you want him to outright lie and say no one is getting traded, or say he doesn't know what the overall plans are, what do you want him to say?