Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Lucas Nogueira -our next center

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by Aruba77, Feb 26, 2011.

Page 3 of 6

Dreamin Member

Joined:

Dec 14, 2010

Messages:

5,603

Likes Received:

63

He is not even in this years draft.

#41 Dreamin, Apr 14, 2011

coachbadlee Member

Joined:

Feb 5, 2010

Messages:

29,671

Likes Received:

10,150

Dreamin said: ↑

He is not even in this years draft.
Click to expand...

Are you sure? He's on draft boards. #26 DX.

#42 coachbadlee, Apr 14, 2011
mickey_angelo Member

Joined:

Apr 7, 2010

Messages:

1,156

Likes Received:

142

coachbadlee said: ↑

Are you sure? He's on draft boards. #26 DX.
Click to expand...

They added him on their latest update. Last weak he was on their 2012 mock. I hope he stays in he falls to the Orlando pick.

#43 mickey_angelo, Apr 14, 2011
mickey_angelo Member

Joined:

Apr 7, 2010

Messages:

1,156

Likes Received:

142

mickey_angelo said: ↑

They added him on their latest update. Last weak he was on their 2012 mock. I hope he stays in he falls to the Orlando pick.
Click to expand...

Never mind, he's #26 on DX's top 100 prospect list but he's still on the 2012 mock draft.

#44 mickey_angelo, Apr 14, 2011
rocketblaze Member

Joined:

May 2, 2009

Messages:

4,400

Likes Received:

129

mickey_angelo said: ↑

Never mind, he's #26 on DX's top 100 prospect list but he's still on the 2012 mock draft.
Click to expand...

He already entered his name into the draft.

this year’s roster features two players who have already entered themselves into the 2011 NBA Draft: Lucas "Bebe" Nogueira from Brazil and Bismack Biyombo from the Congo. Both players are projected to be first-round selections if they choose to stay in the draft.
Click to expand...

But he still hasn't decided if his going to stay in or not..

But the question is, will he even stay in this year’s draft or will he withdraw before the deadline and try his chances again next year?

His translator’s response was understandably vague. “I can’t say that for him. I mean, we’re going to see how he’s going to be doing all week long and then we’re going to sit down and think about what he’s going to do.”
Click to expand...

http://www.beyondthebeat.net/blazers/articles/nike-hoop-summit-getting-to-know-lucas-nogueira-and-bismack-biyombo.html

#45 rocketblaze, Apr 14, 2011
thumbs Member

Joined:

Apr 11, 2002

Messages:

10,225

Likes Received:

237

Bebe is only 18. Morey would never draft (and keep) any player that young. That's just not Moneyball.

#46 thumbs, Apr 14, 2011
coachbadlee Member

Joined:

Feb 5, 2010

Messages:

29,671

Likes Received:

10,150

thumbs said: ↑

Bebe is only 18. Morey would never draft (and keep) any player that young. That's just not Moneyball.
Click to expand...

If Morey were to see the enormous potential that this kid has, he would.

#47 coachbadlee, Apr 14, 2011

cambyrd Member

Joined:

Aug 2, 2001

Messages:

61

Likes Received:

2

Speaking as a UT fan, you have to love a dude that includes free throw shooting in his highlight reel. But what's scary is that there aren't two in a row. Are they and ones or non-shooting fouls in the bonus? Or did he miss the first or second?

#48 cambyrd, Apr 14, 2011
Dreamin Member

Joined:

Dec 14, 2010

Messages:

5,603

Likes Received:

63

That would be really cool if we can nab both Nogueira and Biyombo from this draft. Gives us exactly what we need. A 5 can contribute now and a 5 to work on and develop.

Though Noguiera seems even more RAW than Thabeet. I hope he has a better BB IQ or its going to be long ride.

#49 Dreamin, Apr 14, 2011
desi tmac91 Member

Joined:

Jun 26, 2008

Messages:

3,206

Likes Received:

240

New Draftexpress scouting report:

Brazilian big man Lucas Nogueira had plenty of NBA draft buzz coming into the 2011 Nike Summit after impressing many who saw him last summer at the U-18 FIBA Americas tournament in San Antonio, where he led the tournament in rebounds, blocks, and field goal percentage. He played less than 13 minutes during the game at the Hoop Summit, second least on the team, but he did score 4 points, grabbed 6 rebounds, and blocked a shot, and gave glimpses of why he is such an intriguing prospect.

Lucas's appeal starts with his incredible physical tools, as a 7-footer with a freakishly long 7'6” wingspan, and excellent mobility for a player his size. At this stage, his physical talents manifest themselves mainly in some jaw-dropping blocked shots, rebounds, and dunks from offensive rebounds, cutting to open spaces, and running the floor. His body is still very thin and weak, but that should come in time with the proper work ethic.

Lucas's offensive skill set is still very raw, but he shows glimpses of some promise, especially in his feel for the game, occasionally throwing some very impressive passes. He is still very limited as a scorer and has virtually no post game, but he has decent touch on his shot and is an outstanding finisher around the basket thanks to his physical tools.

Defensively, Lucas has incredible potential, as his size, length and mobility gives him the ability to cover a huge amount of ground and make a major impact as a shot-blocker. His fundamentals are fairly poor at the moment, struggling to step out on the perimeter, biting on pump-fakes and giving up ground too easily in the post, but he's often able to compensate for that with his sheer length and timing. He'll need to get significantly stronger to avoid being backed down in the paint by more physically mature big men, something that might take a few years and will surely involve plenty of hard work.

Teams will likely need to do more research on his intangibles, as that will be a big key to how close he'll be able to come to ever reaching his potential. He appeared to float at times during the practices and didn't always look very focused. In his defense, the language barrier had to have made things far more difficult for him, but his energy level was a bit inconsistent throughout the week.

Lucas is a very intriguing prospect, but the biggest question for NBA teams is figuring out how far along he is in his development, and whether they are patient enough to wait on him. If a team were to select him in the draft based on his upside, they would need to have a plan in place to develop him over the next few years, and decide where the best place would be for him to work on his game and improve.

While it's still unclear if he'll be in this year's draft, Lucas showed enough throughout the week to at least make teams start thinking about where in the draft his reward could be worth the risk. Unfortunately his situation in Spain (playing in an incredibly low-level in the 5th division) is far from ideal at the moment, something that will likely play a factor in his decision.
Click to expand...

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/article...rnational-ForwardsBig-Men-3681/#ixzz1KBq3lbTF
http://www.draftexpress.com

#50 desi tmac91, Apr 21, 2011
coachbadlee Member

Joined:

Feb 5, 2010

Messages:

29,671

Likes Received:

10,150

Nogueira declares.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_brazilian_prospect_nba_draft_042311

#51 coachbadlee, Apr 23, 2011
AggNRox Member

Joined:

Feb 23, 2003

Messages:

3,284

Likes Received:

59

A Prospect 7-footer from Brazil Enter Draft

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_brazilian_prospect_nba_draft_042311

Any thought on where he could be drafted?

#52 AggNRox, Apr 23, 2011
fallenphoenix Member

Joined:

Jun 20, 2009

Messages:

9,821

Likes Received:

1,619

completely uneducated guess

mid 2nd round

#53 fallenphoenix, Apr 23, 2011

xcrunner51 Member

Joined:

Jun 19, 2002

Messages:

5,533

Likes Received:

2,491

Hopefully not by us. We have enough young project bigs.

#54 xcrunner51, Apr 23, 2011
gah Member

Joined:

Nov 1, 2008

Messages:

2,474

Likes Received:

142

He's probably gone before that, but it would be great to grab him with our 23rd and have him spend a couple years in Europe.

#55 gah, Apr 23, 2011
JayGoogle Member

Joined:

Nov 3, 2007

Messages:

52,281

Likes Received:

45,090

xcrunner51 said: ↑

Hopefully not by us. We have enough young project bigs.
Click to expand...

Huh? Perhaps at PF we are set there but the only young center we have is Thabeet. He's proved nothing yet.

He'll probably go in the middle of the overall draft but won't play in the NBA right away. I wouldn't mind picking him up at 23, won't get a quick investment but could work out down the road.

#56 JayGoogle, Apr 23, 2011
JayGoogle Member

Joined:

Nov 3, 2007

Messages:

52,281

Likes Received:

45,090

Also there is a thread in the college forums about him.

#57 JayGoogle, Apr 23, 2011
BrandyonTX Member

Joined:

Jul 17, 2007

Messages:

40

Likes Received:

2

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=201513

#58 BrandyonTX, Apr 23, 2011

Commodore Member

Joined:

Dec 15, 2007

Messages:

33,565

Likes Received:

17,545

Sick of stuggling to find size.

We need to turn our D-League team into a big man boot camp. Draft/sign a bunch of journeyman bigs and let CD and Hakeem and Sikma and Deke and whoever go to work.

One of them has to pan out eventually.

#59 Commodore, Apr 23, 2011
Commodore Member

Joined:

Dec 15, 2007

Messages:

33,565

Likes Received:

17,545

xcrunner51 said: ↑

Hopefully not by us. We have enough young project bigs.
Click to expand...

no such thing, you can never have enough, that's why we bought a D-League team, to take risks on projects

#60 Commodore, Apr 23, 2011

(You must log in or sign up to post here.)

Page 3 of 6

Share This Page