http://www.nba.com/video/channels/a...110412_kia_mip_nominee_derozan.nba/index.html This guy very quietly(to me it seems) made the jump this year from a young prospect to a legit scorer. He's 21-years-old and his only real weakness is shooting the 3. He averaged over 17ppg this year and does it with nice ball control, a decent mid-range pull up, and extreme athleticism. I dont think he should win the MIP award(K.Love is the front runner), but if he works on his 3 ball a little and improves at all anywhere else your looking at a 22-year-old 20ppg scorer next year who could definitely be the cornerstone of a franchise (and fill the highlight reels). He obviously could use a jump in assist and rebounds(which will come with time and experience), but he averages a steal a game and shoots 82% from the ft line and shoots 47% from the field (very efficient) with no signs of any health issues.. I know the Rox could use a guy like this and i'd give up quite a few pieces to get my hands on this kid before his price tag is untouchable(if it isn't already...
It should be taken into account that he's doing this on a terrible Raptors team. Remember what Mike James did playing for this team? Just saying... I haven't watched him much this year so I dunno how much of a leap he's truly making, all I'm saying is lots of average-at-best players can put up impressive numbers on bad enough teams. Not saying the kid isn't special, the few times I did see him this year he looked really impressive.
Hmm, toronto has a solid young core with guys like Bayless, Derozan, Davis, and Sonny Weems, but there are some guys that definitely don't look like the right guys to be there for a rebuilding team, they need to ship out Calderon and Barbosa. Maybe throw Bargs in a trade for a center, or find a way to put him at PF with a legit defensive center. All that said, I think Derozan can be Toronto's new Vince Carter.
He has improved a lot since his rookie season, and I'm happy he's one of Raptors rebuilding pieces. He just need to find a consistent jumper, which Vince Carter did, and he will be a dangerous slasher and offensive player. One thing though, can't pass for shet lol
The raptors need to get rid of bargs and calderon asap, those two guys epitomize the softness and lack of defense that the raptors have.
He's a scorer and that's about it. Can't play D, can't pass, can't rebound..... I wouldn't want a player like that as a cornerstone of my franchise. Plus, don't they already have a player like that, Andrea Bargnani?! I don't think any of those things can be taught either, you either have it or you don't. There are tons of players in the league who can score 20+ on a crap team......he would make a good bench/role player, but that's about it.
Barg is soft and gets lost everywhere on help defence. Hopefully Demar will be a lot more effective than the Guido.
Bargs might be soft at defense, but at least he gives it a shot. DeMar on the other hand appear to be allergic to the thought of playing defense. I cringe when watching this guy, he either has zero defensive IQ or does not enjoy playing D. Either one does not bode well for the Raps.
I disagree.. there aren't tons of players who can AVERAGE 20ppg on a crappy team. Just FYI Scola doesnt average 20ppg and our team isnt good This guy can create his own shot, something that we desperately need at the sf position(with his athleticism i believe he could be a wing). Don't act like this guy is a finished product either. He's in his 2nd year, same as Bud, but younger and playing MUCH better ball. Young players make mistakes and learn. He's not a finished product, its only his 2nd season. If he makes that jump from his 2nd to his 3rd year like most players do(especially considering the jump he made from his 1st to 2nd) he'll be filling it up next season...
The Rockets are a star player away from being a contender. The Raps on the other hand are a mess, they have a lot of holes in way too many positions. They won't be going anywhere for at least the next 2-3 years minimum. Also, the Raps play in the East and won 22 games, thats atrocious. Rockets won 43 in a MUCH tougher conference and division..........and FYI Scola is a BEAST and would easily average 20pts on the Raps!!!!:grin: Bud isn't exactly a fair comparison since nobody in their right mind would give him the title of "cornerstone" of a franchise. I'm not saying Demar can't get better. But I would think you would have learned from watching Bargnani that players that are extremely deficient in areas such as defense, rebounding, and passing tend to never develop in these skills. It's one of those things, you either have it or you don't. You might see a slight improvement but at 22 for a SF it's unlikely. People tend to give centers a longer time as they can develop late, but at the position Demar plays, it seems unlikely. Offense was never a issue with him, so to see him excel in that area is not a big deal. He always had talent in that part of the game. It's the ZERO growth he's shown in defense, rebounding, passing and team basketball that's troubling. "Cornerstone" of a franchise? Don't see it.
good argument.... i still believe he could take his game to the next level next year... guess we'll find out soon enough
Scola also gives you around 9 rebs and an assist a game along with 18 points. Derozan just scores and doesn't do anything else. At this point of his career, his development is too raw to say whether he's a possible cornerstone or not.
Doesn't that make it more impressive? Being the only good player on a horrible team? That mean the other teams defense is focusing on you.
Demar wishes he can become the scorer Martin is. Terrible comparison still because Demar can't shoot for shet.
Well obviously Kevin >>>>>>>> Demar, but the "no D, no rebounding, no passing, can't be a cornerstone" seemed to fit perfectly.
He did do this against us <iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/GNP_THIHKNQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> really reminds me of Vince Carter, but the older Cater tho, he should take the ball to the rim more...if he learns to finish around the rim at a star level, then he'd live up to the vince carter comparison rather than just his dunks
