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[Revisited] A Retrospective Look at the Bosh vs. Scola Debate

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by diamondview, Apr 12, 2011.

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Scola vs. Bosh: Who Do You Sign Now??

  1. Scola

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  2. Bosh

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  1. roslolian

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    Of course by getting Bosh you won't be able to afford that good defensive center...a DH and Bosh combo would never happen due to cap reasons.
     
  2. rockets934life

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    Bosh is the better player while Scola is the better value...right now.
     
  3. PeppermintCandy

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    I'm saying that with Bosh you wouldn't need a star center like Howard, just a good second-tier one. Whereas with Scola you need that star center.

    Of course, both are moot points because neither Bosh nor Howard is walking through that door.
     
  4. roslolian

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    Seriously? So if by some reason you end up with a Bosh/Tyson Chandler combo, you think that's good enough to win a ring? A DH/Scola combo would rip that apart. Hell a KG/Perkins would probably tear it down as well.

    I guess to me Bosh is better than Scola, but he's still not good enough to be your centerpiece or franchise player. He's like an elite 2nd option, and you don't really want to pay your 2nd option 20M a year.
     
  5. dartherus

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    Exactly, Rockets current cap situation won't let 2 max contracts, so if a max contract will be had, it will have to be a REAL superstar, not a 2nd tier player.

    BTW, this very same roster, plus Chandler, Perkins, Okafor or a C like that, would be a HUGE improvement. Scola with a real C backing him up in D, works pretty well, remember he could play very well alongside Yao in D.
     
  6. ashishduh

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    I love the people saying that we're ignoring Osh Kosh Bgosh's defensive impact.

    Hahahahahaha. <3 CF.

    But ya he's an overpaid, soft version of Scola with a worse post game. We already knew this before this season.
     
  7. larsv8

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    Um Bosh is way better, on offense and defense.

    He would of been our cornerstone.

    There is no comparing one our first options to a third stringer on another team.
     
  8. dobro1229

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    Forget production Vs. Value of contract when comparing Bosh Vs. Scola.

    Then think about matchups within the Rockets lineup.

    Chuck Hayes & Chris Bosh mesh much better than Chuck Hayes & Scola.

    Also in Rick Adelman's system Bosh would have been alot more of a weapon than in Miami's slower paced, Pick N Roll/Pick N Pop style of offense.

    With Kyle Lowry and Chuck Hayes as the vocal leaders and the heart and soul of the team, I would think Bosh would be better fit with those two being the leaders and him just worrying about putting the ball in the hoop and doing his job on defense.

    Scola = Value

    -The Rockets still got a good deal out of their second option in Scola at his contract, but hindsight 20/20, Bosh is the better fit with the current roster this organization has.
     
  9. ashishduh

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    Actually it has everything to do with value because if Chris Bosh is the cornerstone of your franchise then good luck winning anything. And if you give him max money with the way our roster is set up, then that's exactly what he is.
     
  10. larsv8

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    Please, if you got Bosh last summer, it would of prevented you from obtaining Brad Miller and you would of been in the exact same cap position, while being a much better team.

    Chris Bosh has been horribly misused his entire career, and would been amazing here.
     
  11. PeppermintCandy

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    Howard and a healthy Garnett are better optiions than Bosh, but Bosh can still be an effective second/third option on a championship team.

    A frontcourt of, say, Bosh/Perkins can help compete for a title, whereas a combination of Scola/Perkins will fall short IMO.
     
  12. ashishduh

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    You're talking about playing Bosh at the 5 and on the same hand saying that's he's been horribly misused? lol

    And your definition of "exact same cap position" is *kinda* off lol, since two years from signing Bosh we'd be capped out as opposed to our current situation where we could easily have lots of cap space next offseason.

    Now that flexibility loss would be worth it if we were getting a superstar but alas, were getting someone who has the same impact on the game that KMart does.
     
  13. Joe Joe

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    Bosh is much more efficient in his scoring than Scola (TS% of .569 vs .538) and scored at a much better rate when he wasn't teamed with James and Wade. Bosh is much younger.

    About a week ago, so one mentioned the Rockets were two pieces away from being a championship contender. Bosh is good enough to be one of those two pieces. Bosh would also cement the Rockets as a destination to compete for potential FAs while Scola does not.
     
  14. ashishduh

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    He's a weak link as the 3rd best player playing behind two of the best players in the NBA. Over here he'd be the best player. *shudder*

    And we've seen how popular of a destination Toronto was.
     
  15. primtim24

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    I personally think this is a scorned woman's point of view.

    Make no mistake about it Chris Bosh would obviously be our best player and although he would've cost more than Scola he would've been better at what Scola does (free throws, mid-range jumpers, and rebound), and he would've been a lot better at what Scola doesn't do (help protect the rim, play man defense)

    I think a lot of people on this forum are letting their personal feelings get in the way of the facts. Like it was stated earlier their pts, rebs, and assists are very similar; but one of those players did that as the #1 option on an offensively orientated team, while the other player did that as the #3 option behind 2 of the best 3 in the game on a defensive, slow it down, orientated team.

    Don't let the deceiving numbers fool you!!!
     
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  16. Easy

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    Sure Bosh would have been our best player. He was Toronto's best player too. That doesn't say much. The fact is, if our team was built around Bosh, we wouldn't be going anywhere. This is not saying that Bosh is not a very good player. It's just that he is not a "cornerstone" kind of player for a title contender.

    Bosh is a very good second option. So is Scola. The difference between Bosh and Scola IMO is defense. Bosh is way better than Scola on defense. On offense, Bosh is just slightly better.
     
  17. ross84

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    Thank you. About to say the same thing. Having numbers like that while playing under Wade and James is pretty amazing.
     
  18. larsv8

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    Toronto was horribly mismanaged, horribly coached, was horrible at cap management, horrible at drafting. Thats why Toronto was terrible, not because Bosh was thier best player.

    Thats not a fact, thats an opinion. And the team wouldnt be built around Bosh, it is already built. He would of been a piece that cements us as elite for the next five years. Would we be title contenders? Probably not. Would we be one piece away? Probably. And being one piece away makes us a destination for the Howards, the Williams, the Pauls, etc.

    options, batmans, robins. They doesnt have any meaning, its basketball rhetoric. Scola is not an "option", he is a role player who Adelman is squeezing a ton of production out of because he is a good coach. Bosh is a max caliber talent who is being used as a role player.

    Bosh is way better than Scola and would of been an MVP candidate if he were playing here.
     
  19. Easy

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    This statement is sig worth. :grin:
     
  20. LabMouse

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    Did he say a similar thing to AB? That would be interesting to know.

     

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