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How good could Dragic be?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by flamingdts, Apr 10, 2011.

  1. roslolian

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    Well its always a good sign when the player has a lot of energy and hustle. A lot of players are selling him short here IMHO, remember this is the guy the Suns FO thought would be Nash's successor. You can't really teach a lot of the stuff he has like court vision, defensive tenacity, height and athleticism. The shooting and better decision making will come in time.

    He's only 24 years old, I expect he'll really reach his potential when he gets a few more years under his belt. Right now I like what I'm seeing, all the skills are there, he just needs to put them together.

    The best part about him is right now he's clearly still at a backup level. This allows Lowry to play with the confidence that he won't be replaced anytime soon. I don't really think having a two-headed monster at just one position is good for the well being of both players, as both players will want more PT and eventually someone gets pushed out.
     
  2. shortfuse3

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    The best part about him is his size and stature. as a 6'4 PG he won't ever be a defensive liability.

    as far as PG skills, he's aggresive on offense, but once he makes up his mind to drive he won't stop till he gets to the hoop, so there's potential for turnovers/charges. i havn't seen much semblance of court vision. if anything he rarely passes to the open man when they're open.
     
  3. javal_lon

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    IF he were as good as yall say then why wouldnt Phoenix keep him and trade Nash?....Just a thought...Examples of this phisophy is Denver(trade Billups,enter Lawson), Detroit (trade Billups,enter Stuckey), and your very own Rockets (trade Brooks, enter Lowry)...And this one is on the house Memphis (trade Lowry, enter Conley).........So what Im saying is he must not be that great...He can be just what he is....a backup!!!!!
     
  4. BimaThug

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    While I may not be as pessimistic on Dragic as durvasa, I generally agree with his assessment. Dragic is a nice backup PG. Not much more. But there's not necessarily anything wrong with that.

    knote32, come on, man. It was ONE game. Against the CLIPPERS, no less.

    Gotta agree with True Beaner in that you can't judge a player off of one game. If we did that, we'd all be giving out Kelvin Cato-like $42 million contracts to every player who has a great game from time to time.

    The fact of the matter is that, if Aaron Brooks had been able to handle his contract situation (and demotion to the bench) with the professionalism that Chuck Hayes has, it is quite likely that Brooks never gets traded. There is also a reason that Phoenix was willing to throw in a 2011 first round pick with Dragic. Brooks is a better player than Dragic.

    But what happened happened. And, right now, Dragic is the better fit for the Rockets as a BACKUP point guard.

    Let's not get too riled up about one good game. I like Dragic, but let's put the annointing oil back on the shelf for now.
     
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  5. MorningZippo

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    I disagree. Phoenix threw in the pick because they believed Brooks could return to his level of play from last season. In essence they were betting on "potential," but not in the normal sense of the word.
     
  6. Sanity2disChaos

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    He is a above average back-up .....nothing more or less...he is the perfect guy in the right position her in Houston as a Rocket...IT IS WRITTEN.
     
  7. DragonGirl

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    You foolish mans say Dragic is backup point guard for life…you know nothing!!! You never see young player improve in your many years of watching NBA??? Point guard is position that take time for some to truly be great…you never hear of Chauncey Billups??? Steve Nash???

    I was very excited for Goran to be traded to Houston Rockets because it is great organization with two championchip. Phoenix good, but never win championchip. But Houston fans horrible!!! Destroy young players morale. Dragon shooting improve big time since trade and point guard responsibilities will improve when more comfortable with team. Remember, young Steve Nash was traded from Phoenix to Texas, comes back and turns into all star! I hope to see same for Dragon and Houston fans cry. Fans on Phoenix board appreciate Dragon and gave him home away from Slovenia.
     
  8. kidcave9

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    We always have to be critical of players we get from phoenix, something just ain't right about'em, howdy...
     
  9. gregas

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    Hold your horses, Dragongirl. No need to blindly and aggressively support a player, just because he's Slovenian. If you want to support Dragic, list some arguments in his favor instead of pouring your dissatisfaction all over the posters of this board.

    The fact is, I'm Slovenian too and I've been following Dragic for quite some time. I honestly believe he has all the tools to be a great player some day. He has great size for his position, he's deceivingly quick and athletic, has great speed, good passing ability and generally high bball IQ.

    He has learned so much since coming into the league. I still remember a timid player who couldn't even bring the ball across the court without turning it over. He grew rapidly and eventually became one of the best players on the Suns and most certainly the engine of the 'humming' second unit of the last years Suns. He capped the season with an amazing performance against the suns in game 3 and with his late game heroics against the Lakers in game 6, that could have, if successful, turned the whole series around.

    Unfortunately the suns failed and disassembled a fully functional team, which lead to lineup problems and eventual loss of identity. Goran, along with the whole second team, was one of the victims of the changes and unfortunately never recovered from the resulting slump. And that, in my opinion, is his greatest weakness - he seems to be very mentally fragile. I hope, that the combination of hard work and love for the game will eventually prevail over his confidence issues and that he will become the player that i believe he can be.
     
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  10. tinman

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    Great pickup this season.

    I like the Lowry/Dragic combo at PG
     
  11. choujie

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    Don't know. He's not making a lot plays for Rockets except his 3s are falling and his defense is good, but I can't judge him on only 2 months of play when he doesn't even know the play sets.

    Next season I'll have a better idea.
     
  12. glimmertwins

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    I like his upside. I think PGs generally mature later than other positional players and Dragic seems to have a good combination of skill and savy to go with some chipiness that will serve him well later in his career. I imagine RA's offense isn't the easiest to learn so I'm sure a solid offseason of working on that(assuming we still have RA next year) should provide a better view of what he's capable of. At worst he's a decent bench player who can carry a team when he gets hot....probably will never be a great defender(compared to Lowry) but if he can impact the game defensively in other ways(steals, drawing charges), he can minimize that.

    At best...well I hate to compare him to Nash in next level court vision but let's remember that Nash didn't get to that next level until his 7th or 8th year. He blew up the moment he left Dallas. Dragic seems to have some of that magic in him but if he turns it up like Nash did is probably a bit unlikely(just cause Nash is sooo good). I think the realistic best case expectation for Dragic is solid starter who may have been a fringe all-star in a different decade but will never get the respect in today's game because of the dirth of really good PGs in the league right now. At best we could hope for is him being a fringe top 10 PG and certainly someone who could take a team deep in the playoffs.
     
  13. OHMSS

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    A lot of people here say Dragic is a young PG but he will be 25 next month. I would not describe him as a young point guard. More like one that is entering his prime.
     
  14. flamingdts

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    Steve Nash didn't flourish till he was near the end of his prime.

    Not saying Dragic is Steve Nash, but there are A LOT of late bloomers in NBA.
     
  15. aeolus13

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    They shall call him Dragic Johnson...
     
  16. worzel gummidge

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    Two low first rounders in a weak draft plus Sarver doesn't like rookies.
     
  17. rpr52121

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    He will be this good...

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  18. SuperBeeKay

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    PG is one of those positions where players can play until their mid-30s if they have some good skills. Look at Andre Miller, Kidd, Nash, (soon Billups), Earl Watson (32 soon)
     
  19. flamingdts

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    Dragic 3-5, 7 points, 1 rebound and 3 steals in the first quarter.

    I am very impressed with his defense. I thought he had decent defense, but I'm starting to see he is an above average defender in this league easily.
     
  20. DrNuegebauer

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    Well...

    It's just a couple of games starting in a row now - but Dragic looks like he fits right in as an NBA starting PG.
    Obviously Lowry has that job here - but nothing wrong with having a more than capable backup on the bench!

    Did we really get him + a draft pick in exchange for a 5'10 SG?
     

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