American Idol - Season 10

I wish Haley's go out an do some shemekia copeland wild, wild woman, just to stir up manny. Have you ever heard of Shemekia? This is the kind of career haley can have but I doubt she will do it because Shemekia works real hard for a lot less attention than Haley would want.

http://listen.grooveshark.com/s/Wild+Wild+Woman/2UnN4F?src=5

 

Oh Manny, taking the internets too seriously as usual. My point was quite straightforward and did not require the person-by-person analysis that you provided, which without a doubt took way more time than someone your age should be spending writing about American Idol and probably no one read. I don't even know why you found it necessary to analyze every single contestant when we were just talking about Haley and Pia. Perhaps you overestimate the value of your opinion around here. But anyway.

"Her not being better than Pia doesn't make her mediocre." - quite clear and is a simply point of logic. In case you don't follow yet, let me explain - just because you are not the best person, that does not automatically deem you mediocre. That's like saying Lebron is not a superstar because he hasn't won multiple championships like Kobe.

Before you realize your thoughtless statements and try to backpedal, yes, you said Haley was mediocre:

and yes, you made a pointless argument that no one was trying to argue otherwise (at least I wasn't):

Once again, just because Haley probably isn't better than Pia, that does not make her mediocre. And your own detailed assessment of Haley sure does seem like you view her way more than just "mediocre."

Try to channel the energy you put into your Clutchfans posts into more things of value. Job hunting maybe?

 

Yet, you felt compelled to come back at me with a post that is probably the longest post you (for you) have ever composed. So, tell me, friend, who is taking the "internets" too seriously now?

Uh, dude - can you read? I said, I know, probably at least twice (maybe more) that I am going by their voices. Pia has the much stronger voice and Hayley's voice is one that anyone watching the show for the last 9 or 10 years has heard dozens of times. Why else do you think she is growling all the time? She knows HERSELF that her voice is not her strongpoint, but as I said several times before - Hayley has the edge over Pia on song choice and presentation. So, I'll say it one more time: Despite having a mediocre voice compared to who is left in the competition, Hayley has really come on the last 2 weeks by focusing more on her song choice and overall presentation.

No, it was called trying to quantify my (your) argument and actually stimulate discussion instead of using inflammatory techniques like the rolleyes emoticon or saying snappy one-liners. And I have already addressed, up above, about the "mediocrity" of Hayley.

Thanks for the completely unnecessary back-handed potshot about that, champ. Always nice of a poster to bring up something completely irrelevant to the discussion and personal, simply because their debating skills aren't at the level that they would want them to be. Is "yo" another account for Fatty FatBastard? As that sounds like something he would pull. But for your information, even though it is none of your damn business, I have had THREE interviews at one place and they are supposed to let me know this Monday if I will be working there. So, I'll go back to *job hunting* as soon as I know how this latest lead turns out for me. I can email you through the board an update on Monday, chief.

 

Agreed on both statements.

Further,

Pia is always dressed and acting like a ho but a great singer.

Manny Ramirez is an outstanding music critic but does his job in a basketball forum.

Lastly, Paul Mcdonald is going to shock the world.

 

and for Randy being mad for Pia leaving - hey dawg, you aint america. you don't even vote. These contestants all deserve to be an american idol.

 

If ya'll think this is all about the best vocal talent, you'll be disapointed. the job of the 3 judges is to make sure they all can sing. After that it's not ust about singing anymore...

 

I like Simon too but he's not a perfect judge at all. People would sometime react negatvely to his cruel comments.

This is all about what america likes now. Not just their singing talent. I don't think people will listen to those judges about who to vote. If I follow what they say, then I'd rather not vote at all cuz I dont want to be their puppet, and i have to pay for my messages to vote for what they like?? No thanks!

 

Pia Toscano > Thomas Dewey

 

I think it's crazy and early for her to go obviously..

but I will say, as a viewer, every week I could say "objectively, Pia was really really awesome". But she never did anything to make me like her a ton. If I voted, she never did anything to make me vote for her save for 1 week (the first time she surprised everyone with that voice)

So while she was really good, she was missing something constantly. That something that would garner votes. In hindsight, I think I get it and think this was coming in the next 2 weeks if it didn't happen now

 

I'll say it again. The judges are done with their primary responsibilty. All of them can sing and at this point everyone deserve to become an American Idol. It's all boils down now to likeability/aura. And jsut because Pia left doesn't mean the rest are crappy performers. If Pia wowed a lot of people, that would have resulted a vote.

 

I'm missing the point because you refuse to listen to my point. Primary responsibility? That is, to make sure that the top 12 are competent.

Anybody who votes based on what the judges comments at this stage of the competition is an ignoramus. I'm glad america didn't listen to Randy. There are no undecided voters in this field, music is universal, soo easy to understand that even a caveman can relate. You don't need a judge, again, at this point, to know which singer you have fun listening to, with considrations to musical genre, style... etc.

In the very court of law, the judges don't decide who the guilty party is either.

No further question your honor.

 

IMO, Pia going home makes Idol that much better. Anyone can go home. Noone is a lock. Everyone thought she would be top 2 or 3....but nope. The fans have spoken. I think the fact that she was praised so much went against her. When fans see you overpraised and at a level above the rest, then they don't feel like voting for someone else will harm Pia's chances. The only real gripe was she wasn't doing up tempo. Then, she did that and, while her singing was good, the performance itself fell flat imo. She's got no real moves. She just wants to stand there and sing slow stuff. She needs to work on her performance skills. Everyone knows she has the pipes.

 

Pia was boring boring boring. There are only a few singers out there who are exceptionally gifted vocally. Everyone else is great but has to rely on being entertaining in other ways. Because when all you can do is imitate Celine Dion, but not as good, that's not impressive. People are better off listening to Celine herself.

Haley doesn't have as great a pure voice as Pia, but is much more entertaining, IMO.

THe fact that Pia got sent home over Stefano is surprising, because he sucks. Jacob needs to really start watching out because his act is also a snooze fest.

Simon is missed right now. Steven was great during he taped shows though. That said, aside from those already eliminated and Stefano, this years crop does seem mug stronger than the past few seasons. I don't think Simon would be quite as critical as some are suggesting.

 

America listens and America speaks. Three judges are not America, so knock it off and enjoy the ride people.

 

Well there goes the 18-35 male demographic tv rating they just lost.