Florida Pastor Terry Jones Burns Quran After Mock Trial (w/ video)

So, Team Murder's tactic is to now deflect the line of discussion to Aroundtheworld?

 

That's how it is in every thread, once they realize they can't argue their point anymore, they try to shift the topic, and once they can't do that, they just start hurling personal insults at people.

 

That sounds like ATW's tactics as well.

 

damn I don't frequent these boards too often but apparently I missed some major pwnage. What happened?

 

So because someone places part of the blame of a crime on a backward ass preacher, they are labeled Team Murder?


Pathetic.

 

If you are going to dish it out you've got to be able to take it as well. You've been calling their buddy Nazi in nearly every Muslim related thread, obviously you are going to get a response from these guys. I know that ATW started it with his "Islamists/terrorists" comments, but if you are the better person you would ignore that stuff. Or you could stoop down to that level....but then complaining about being called "team murder" is pointless in my opinion.

 

Ya, thats not me calling him a Nazi. I may have hinted at it once or twice, but ever since he cried and reported me I stick to the "Mental Issues/Asperger Patient with Tourettes" story for ATW.

 

LOL.

Nice to know my signature bothers you that much, adeel.

Personally, I thought your quote was funny.

Unfortunately you had to edit hell out of my quote and splice it together to your own liking for your sig. Poor form dude, poor form.

 

I'm going to edit this to represent adeel's signature creating skills.

 

lol, you quote me out of context, and then are surprised that I did something similar?

I mean, I did just take out the irrelevant parts of your post

 

And calling a group of posters "Team Murder" is not deflecting?

AroundTheWorld has made his views of Islam known through a long history of posting (~100? threads attacking Islam). He is a really easy target - might as well get used to it instead of being a little cry baby...

 

Here's my take on this:

UN workers' murder >> 100% caused by the mob >> mob incited by the preacher >> preacher incited by/used as an excuse >> Mr. Jones' Koran burning.

Agreeing and knowing that above sequence caused 20 deaths and repeating it MAY cause 20 deaths more, my question to ATW et al who share his view:

Will you support and defend Mr. Jones' burning another koran again?

I am not assigning any blame to Mr. Jones' act in the first instance nor in this hypothetical 2nd time.

 

If you think somebody doing a miniature recreation of a massive terrorist attack sends the same message as somebody burning a book...

Then dude, I don't know what to tell you.

There is a difference between "I don't like this religious philosophy and do not approve of it therefore I will destroy the book which it is based on as a show of my disapproval" and "I think killing 3000 people is awesome".

One would give you pause to think that somebody is *very much so* willing to commit violence, while the other, while it's not the *nicest* way to go about proving your point, doesn't necessarily make me think that person is going to go out and kill or harm people over their opinion.

Is burning a book, on your own property, and own time, and own dime, a "not" peaceful act? Like I said, distasteful probably, but violent? The line between peaceful and not peaceful is hard to nail down here. So that's why I have issue with your sig. You assume that since I think they convey two different messages, that one must be "peaceful". That's an unfair assumption (in addition to your editing job which very much oversimplifies the matter). I have no problem if you want to say it's not peaceful, but don't assume that just because two things are both "not peaceful" that they automatically convey the exact same message, y'know?

 

You keep reducing religious symbols down to the basic level "books". The act itself is vile and represents hatred towards a group of people.

Burning a religious text symbolizes the desire to get rid of followers of that book. If you can't see that ...Then dude, I don't know what to tell you.

No one said that we should do a miniature recreation of a terrorist attack, however you were still able to imply the implications of simply burning a piece of plastic that resembles a building.

The fact that you jumped to such a conclusion shows that you are able to draw the symbolism in this scenario, but you clearly are failing to do so in every other scenario.

Burning a Quran/Bible/Torah/Geeta/ isn't just burning a book.

 

Very well put like a lot of posts on here but I fear you are wasting your time since adeelsiddiqui can't seem to grasp any of the differences. He will just come back with his illogical outrageous examples and analogies that do not make any sense.

 

well looks like im too late he already replied with his ridiculous comparisons

 

That is an assumption on your part.

Once again, you're taking somebody burning a book you like as a personal threat, or in the case of Afghanis, cause to kill random people.

That is not reasonable thinking.

Your exact words.

The buildings burned and then fell to the ground. Sounds like a pretty good recreation of what happened to me, don't you? And I don't need to "imply" anything. You said it yourself, it is a WTC replica. I don't have to assume that this piece of plastic is meant to symbolize anything, because it is *overt representation* of the WTC. There are no implied representations. It is, by your own word, purposefully meant to replicate the WTC. To call it anything else would be not only dishonest, but outright silly. And I don't know about you, but somebody who thinks the murder of 3000 people is something worth celebrating/recreating/paying tribute to (or whatever else you want to interpret it as) seems like a reasonable threat, no?

To someone who thinks it is only a book, yes it is. I think it is only a book, in fact, I think it is a pretty awful book (among others) therefore, I will burn it if I choose, and you will just have to deal with the fact that I don't like your religion.

If you choose to harm me because I do so, even under the guise of "he was threatening me!", that won't fly legally... simply because it is unreasonable to assume I mean physical harm to you by expressing my distaste for a religion (which may or may not happen to be yours). This is why context comes into play. If I come to your home, burn a pile of korans in your yard, and chant "death to the muslim adeel!", then yeah, you might have a case. But otherwise, you're just practicing one of two things... paranoia (he doesn't like islam, therefore he means me harm!) or self-righteousness (he doesn't like islam, so I'm gonna kick his ass!).

 

Have you done anything at all in this thread other than harp randomly at others posts. GTFO unless you can actually post something meaningful to the discussion.

 

I am just enjoying the major pwnage Donny is giving you. I stopped responding directly to your outrageous claims after you used the horrible analogy of the psycho teacher.

 

Anyone else in this thread realize the burning of the Quran was only a catlyst to the violent protest that took place? Am I the only one who thinks that our decision to have military presence in their country has a factor in any of this? (i.e. no other Muslim country had murders occur based on the burning of the Quran)

Hate to have said this a 3rd time but I think it is extremely relevant.