Florida Pastor Terry Jones Burns Quran After Mock Trial (w/ video)

Jive?

 

What a surprise. A thread in which nobody blames anyone other than the Muslim murderers for a crime, but people do delve deeper into the issues that go beyond Islam and they get blamed for trying to excuse the Muslims for murder.

ATW still ignoring what he wants and trying to twist and reach for a way to blame Islam... Some things never change.

 

You obviously did not read the thread (e.g. mc mark's post).

 

You are truly an a$$hole for speaking with this condescending tone towards someone who has been and is being persecuted by his government.

Persecution that, according to http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,751508,00.html has seen feeble opposition from your elected government.

Disgusting.

 

Again, you've said nothing, zip, zero in your post but "no".

Because you can't.

You've also followed it up with a racist attempt to make a mockery of the Shiite religion while attributing it to me.

You even had to cut out most of my post because that's precisely the part you couldn't address.

 

I speak jive.

 

Well, at the very least nobody is killing anyone because of their opinion on the Rockets.

 

Yeah, you know, to agree with.

Terrence Williams' attitude doesn't jive with Rick Adleman.

 

I think you mean "jibe".

 

Weird, I've never heard it said that way.

Oh well, whatever works, you turkeys.

 

Person A (Terry Jones) is responsible for X (Inciting hatred), and person B (terrorists) is responsible for Y (murder).

If you do it any other way, then there is a conflict of interest... Person B (terrorists) will keep doing Y (murder) just to attribute some of the responsibility to person A (Terry Jones), rendering person A's freedoms worthless because they are not exercisable without infringing on other people's freedoms.

If you think inciting hatred should be illegal, you could make a case for that, but it would have to be completely independent of its results otherwise the murderers and terrorists will take advantage of the linkeage.

 

This doesn't jibe with me!

Seriously though, inciting hatred?

How? Can you explain?

Is he inciting hatred by lying about Muslims to people over here, calling for violence against them, etc?

Or is he inciting hatred by just pissing Muslims off in general?

If it is the 1st case, then yeah, he's a butthole and is totally guilty of stirring up violence and hatred.

If it's the 2nd case (which is what it looks like from here), then that isn't really "inciting hatred". Expressing your opinion (without calling for violence or straight up making things up 'all mooslimz eat babiez!') isn't "inciting" anything. If other people choose to get pissed off because he doesn't like, respect, or follow their religion, then that is their problem.

 

Thats funny man Iam a law student Iam very familiar with the term .. I think freedom of speech wasnt given as a right to be abused and used to insult someone else .. Would it be ok if I use freedom of speech to insult victim's of the holocaust it would be cruel and unmoral and should be illegal

It doesnt hurt to be sympthetic

But u made your mind up apperantly anything directed toward islam is justifiable and legal rather than unnessacry and immature ..

And By that your doing many people injustice but mostly yourself .. You must flexiable .. you must be convinceable rather than stubborn

wont do you any good

 

Do you agree that this pastor has motivated the death of the 20 or so people?

http://www.smudailycampus.com/opinion/ignorance-breeds-hate-1.2139212

 

So What your saying is that I should be responseable and accountable for what these extreme idiots do even though I condemn them ..

Sunni extremist have been killing my people for over 800 years .. U cant ignorantly come here and group me with them ..

 

How do you feel about people burning American flag or the Holy Bible?

 

Uh, no.

 

Motivated? Sure. But it isn't my problem if you choose to take my opinion as motivation to do something unreasonable. That is their fault, and their fault alone.

Someone else already said it, but I don't think it is "motivation" as much as an "excuse" for them to do what they did.

It's that kind of "gimme a reason" mentality... looking for an excuse to hurt people... in that sense, he didn't really "motivate it", it seems like they were already motivated... they were just looking for another excuse.

Why did you post an opinion piece written by a freshman at SMU?

And is "the pursuit of truth and the overthrow of systems" really a major there? Wow.

 

I have a few hypothetical questions....

We have Bob. Bob was happily married for 5 years. One day he walks in to his house while his wife is in bed with his best friend. His best friend runs out of the house and Bob goes into a fit of rage and kills his wife.

1) Was Bob's friend a part of the chain of events that caused the wife to die?

2) Was Bob's friend's actions a motivation for the Bob killing his wife?

3) Does Bob's friend have any responsibility in the death of the wife?