1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

CEO Bob Parsons under fire for killing elephant

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by KingCheetah, Apr 2, 2011.

  1. apollo33

    apollo33 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2009
    Messages:
    20,801
    Likes Received:
    17,363
    I would think shooting elephants in those parts of the world by hired hunters are standard practice. It's like pest control.

    I just didn't like the fact that all he did was tag along with the hunters, and now the News reads, "American CEO big hero for saving poor and desperate African farmer's crops".
     
  2. mylilpony

    mylilpony Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2008
    Messages:
    2,956
    Likes Received:
    230
    there is a no hunting policy in my neighborhood, but we are allowed to kill gators once a year to help control population. If one of these gators could paint a picture, it looks like our community would be in more ****.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,810
    Likes Received:
    20,467
    It's not that I know anything. It's a matter of what has been done and been successful. I'm merely talking about what other people far more knowledgeable than I have already done.
     
  4. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    59,079
    Likes Received:
    52,748
    I think it says more about the community you live in -- gator hunts? Will you be featured in an upcoming episode of swamp people?
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,810
    Likes Received:
    20,467
    Rather you're trying to save you're own face for falling for Parson's lame line of BS. Proclaiming himself a do-gooder when he was just getting his jollies needlessly killing an elephant.

    And it could be that he's done more harm than good and those actions will bring back the elephants, and maybe next time they'll kill someone.
     
  6. apollo33

    apollo33 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2009
    Messages:
    20,801
    Likes Received:
    17,363
    Why do you keep saying it's needless. Needless from who's point of view? I bet the farmers were fricken tired of this big ass pest destroying their means of survival, they were probably rooting for it to be rid off permanently.
     
  7. plcmts17

    plcmts17 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2003
    Messages:
    3,777
    Likes Received:
    179
    If his main concern was helping starving people, wouldn't there be another way
    of doing it instead of killing elephants? I mean he his a multi-millionaire!
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,810
    Likes Received:
    20,467
    Then they could use one of the proven methods of keeping the elephants out of their crops that doesn't include killing them?

    That's why I say it's needless. There are other options that have been shown to work. Use one.
     
  9. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    27,105
    Likes Received:
    3,757
    One of your methods was an electric fence. Your solution for power was generators. So instead of using generators for say refrigerators that could house vaccines and medicine at the local clinic, you propose using them for an electric fence in order to avoid killing an elephant.

    Do you really think that is a good use of resources?
     
  10. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    59,079
    Likes Received:
    52,748
    Assist them digging fresh water wells, agriculture tools, vitamins, cattle... etc., etc.
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,810
    Likes Received:
    20,467
    Using a generator to protect crops to feed hungry villagers is close to be as good if not as good as using it for a refrigerator. But that's beside the point.


    Why only use one generator? It doesn't have to be an either/or situation. I'm sure the goodhearted hero Parsons could spring for more than one generator.

    In addition that was only of the methods.

    Is killing elephants which could result in more elephants coming back and killing people a good use of resources?
     
  12. thadeus

    thadeus Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2003
    Messages:
    8,313
    Likes Received:
    726
    Too many poor Americans worship the wealthy.
     
  13. The Real Shady

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2000
    Messages:
    17,173
    Likes Received:
    3,972
    So the elephant's could potentially plan a payback attack on the villagers for Parson's taking one of their own? Damn, didn't think about that.
     
  14. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    59,079
    Likes Received:
    52,748
    [​IMG]

    It's only a matter of time.
     
  15. mylilpony

    mylilpony Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2008
    Messages:
    2,956
    Likes Received:
    230
    because our neighborhood has a lake? What does that say about our community? That we live next to the gulf and there is wildlife inhabiting the surrounding area.
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    58,168
    Likes Received:
    48,335
    Not knowing the situation I can't say for sure whether the elephant was so much of a threat that killing it was the only way but I certainly don't think Parsons is some humanitarian doing this out of the goodness of his heart. If he really cared about the people of Zimbabwe there are way more Africans dying from disease and lack of development. If he really wanted to help out the people of Africa as Cheetah noted above I suspect providing a water purification system will do more for those of that village than killing an elephant. Or for that matter what about starting a program to teach the villagers other ways to deal with the elephant problem and / or to start an ecotourism program so they can make money from the local elephants?

    Also since this was Zimbabwe I am wondering how much of the money that Parson's spent to get the OK to shoot an elephant ended up in the hands of corrupt officials of Mugabe's regime.
     
  17. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    27,105
    Likes Received:
    3,757
    No see many vaccines and drugs (that save millions of peoples lives) have to be refrigerated. Outside of third world countries this isn't really a problem.
    The world has limited resources. (Not sure if you knew that) I doubt Parsons is going to give everyone a generator who needs it. So whatever resources we have, should be put to good use. For instance if he was willing to give 10 generators, ZERO of them should be used for an electric fence.
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,810
    Likes Received:
    20,467
    Actually that's true. Read one of the links I posted earlier in the thread. It talks about Elephants doing exactly that.

    Here's another link if you'd like to read it.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...Get-out-of-the-way...-he-hasnt-forgotten.html
     
    #138 FranchiseBlade, Apr 3, 2011
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2011
  19. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,810
    Likes Received:
    20,467
    I understand about refrigerating medicine. My own insulin that keeps me alive needs refrigeration. But we were are talking about a village. Parsons didn't keep millions fed by saving the farmer's crops from the elephant.

    As far as generators not being used for electric fences I thought one of the reasons shooting this elephant was good was that it destroyed the crops? All of a sudden that isn't a good enough reason use a generator.

    I guess we'll just have to disagree. I believe that protecting crops and feeding hungry farmers and providing some small amount of other money or goods they might get from the crops is worth a generator.

    Again, though, you are ignoring the other many possible measures that have been shown to effectively keep elephants away from crops.
     
  20. showtang043

    showtang043 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2008
    Messages:
    859
    Likes Received:
    71
    Yea, it's ridiculous. You can see the mentality that it is for sport just the way he took a picture with it. If he really wanted to help, he has a boatload of money and can help update new farming techniques, etc to help the village. If he really wanted to get rid of the elephant, he could've used a tranquilizer gun and there are just other ways without killing the thing

    Why is an elephant more important? Another poster hit it because it is thinking, feeling thing. Has a family, studies have shown how they take care of their own, etc.

    Sad thing to see people defending it and not seeing the just as easy alternatives
     

Share This Page