Florida Pastor Terry Jones Burns Quran After Mock Trial (w/ video)

Murderers should be blamed obviously.

But that won't bring back the lives of people lost who didn't burn the book and didn't want to burn it. Imagine you die because someone thousands of miles away burned a book, and someone else thousands of miles away from your home kills you for it.

Truly sick story.

 

They died because the Islamist murderers killed them, not because someone burned a book on the other side of the world.

 

The blind fanatism and hate of the Islamists.

 

Good to see there was a calm measured reaction to Terry Jones' Quran burning.

 

True but the burning of the Qur'an is still idiotic and brews more hate. I was always taught from a very young age to respect all 3 holy books. Either way, the killings are sickening.

 

No disagreement that it is unnecessary and stupid, but it does obviously not justify or excuse the murders (I don't think anyone would disagree with that, not even the craziest posters here).

But there is also no causation. The Islamist murderers killed because they hate. They would take any reason, however small it may be, and if it is someone burning a book at the other side of the earth, or drawing a cartoon, or ...

 

I'm an atheist so I don't feel that way. And as a citizen I've got the right to destroy my property.

F them if they try to subvert my rights. I've got a ****ing army.

That's it, really.

 

I think fair is fair---

what Jones did was idiotic.
what the Islamic fundamentalists did was even MORE idiotic. (though it seems like a coordinated assassination by the Taliban to kill UN workers under the cover of the chaos from initial reports-which is terrible in every way).

what Jones did was protected under US law--->freedom of speech. You might not like it, but it is.

what the Taliban did was and always will be outside the bounds of any rational law.

HOWEVER, that said, I would have liked to have seen a similar trial held for the Christian Bible, in that I don't think a society that holds the First Amendment sacrosanct should have anything "too holy to be attacked", short of speech inciting direct violence.

I think a relevant foray into how both the Bible and the Quran have committed crimes against humanity by inciting and maintaining the long and torturous history of homosexual repression would be an interesting start. For too long, we have had old books dictate to us who we respect and who we don't. There are many beautiful pieces in the Bible and the Quran worthy of admiration, but there are so many tenets that reflect the prejudices of "divinely inspired" 1st and 2nd century writers. These prejudices have lead to much suffering and pain for many people.

 

There is absolutely no fail in my logic.

The actions of the Islamist murderers are an intervening cause. There is no causation between the actions of the pastor and the murders.

 

"Let's murder people because some dude on the other side of the planet thinks we're a bunch of murderers!!"


Makes perfect sense.

 

And its the girls fault she got raped because she was dressing like a tramp?

 

those innocent people didnt die b/c someone burned a book - they died b/c a bunch of brainwashed and cowardly assholes murdered them.

why dont they go after the pastor directly instead of killing innocent people? have there even been any death threats against him or his congregation? it is really odd that anytime someone does something that offends muslims they get death threats or murdered (south park, theo van gogh, ect), but this pastor jones can go around burning korans and no harm or threats of harm come his way.

the fail in logic is with those who would murder innocent people in their own community b/c someone on the other side of the world burned a book.

 

I googled "provocation" and "quran burning" and got this:

http://sheikyermami.com/2010/09/09/koran-burning-isn’t-the-real-“provocation-”-or-mohammed-cartoons/

(She actually forgot a lot like for instance the police puppy outrage.)

While I don't endorse that site and think it paints with too broad a brush against all Muslims instead of focusing on the radical parts of the religion and its followers, the element of truth that there is to it is:

These fanatics will always find something that offends them. None of their actions are justified because of that, and no blame for actions committed by extremists as part of their "outrage" routine should go to whoever happens to be the one they use at a given moment as an excuse for their hate and their murders. We cannot cater to extremists.

 

No one should be intimidated by those Islamic murderers. They shouldn't be controlling anybody's behavior in Florida, from their land in Afghanistan. Intimidation and threats of violence aren't reason enough not to be able to practice a basic right in the US. Sorry.

 

So 20 UN workers have died because one men across the world burned a Koran and all you have to say is he should've Known better. That's really justified.

 

This is just another case of a few Muslims making the rest look bad.

 

The Qur'an burning was really stupid. You don't do that for anything other to inspire hate. The dude probably doesnt, but I hope he feels awful after that.

But the reaction to it was even stupider.

It seems everyone is stupid. Can't we stop having fights over religion?