**The Official Shane Battier as a Member of the Memphis Grizzlies...Again Thread**

As I said earlier, there are a group of people who make it their job to be an apologist for Shane Battier...a perfect example is the post right above me...a post that doesn't analyze any aspect of the comparative analysis of Allen and Battier, which discusses how much better Tony is playing now that he's been given an expanded role (something Battier has never been able to do), but instead it's a post that just recycles the same nonsense of how "Technically, Battier has helped lead the Grizz into the playoffs." Lol, like anybody is buying that garbage. It doesn't take much anticipatory thinking or prophetic skills to know how his blind supporters will scour the internet looking for bs +/- stats that are not an accurate representation of what went on on the court (try watching the game) and tangential statements to try and salvage the reputation of a player who is on the verge, if not already, of being marginal... As I said at the end of my previous post...Let the excuses and justifications for "Uncle" Battier's mediocrity begin..

 

You definitely have a very warped and strange definition of intelligence...then again...you are the one who provided us with this gem, lol:

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=6047132&postcount=10

 

Omg, Kwame said "Uncle" Battier...I'm gonna let the world know how outraged I am!

Your antipathy towards me didn't allow you to see the fact that I used quotes around that word...but whatever...Uncle Battier or "Uncle" Battier...I like having fun with you sensitive Battier nuthuggers and apologists.

 

What do you have to say about Tony Allen demonstrating that he's actually a better basketball player than Battier will ever be? Allen, despite suffering a major injury in his career, has shown more improvement since Rudy Gay went down than Shane Battier has shown his entire career...and guess what? Allen didn't cost anyone a lottery pick and he gets paid less than Battier.

What are you thoughts on this?

 

You deliberately avoided answering my question and decided to personalize the debate instead of sticking to the issues...Battier's apologists have nothing else to fall back on. I wouldn't wanna deal with the issues and the facts either if the guy I blindly worshiped was backing up a career bench player who's showing more improvement than Battier ever has despite his knee exploding a few season ago.

 

There's nothing wrong with comparing him to similar type players, especially those on the same team he plays with, but it looks as if Allen has turned the corner and become a reliable producer, both in an intangible and tangible manner...I'm not sure if you're aware of that, however, because you may not watch the games.

You must not watch the games. I do. Battier's supporters are relying mainly on +/- stats (funny how you don't call them out on this), but everybody knows they're not an actual reflection of what goes on in the game, which is why you have to watch. The comparative analysis between Allen and Battier is a useful one, because Battier's apologists were offended when he would get compared to guys like Allen in the past, but know he's being outplayed by Allen as Tony is providing both tangible and intangible production on a consistent basis, but then again, you would have to watch the games to now that. In sum, Tony Allen has become a better basketball player than Shane Battier.

 

If there's nothing wrong with my comparison, why would you suggest that I should have changed the title of the thread if the discussion is pretty open? I don't expect anyone to stick to anything. I made my comment. Some posters came in and engaged in name-calling and then I asked them a question about the comparison. Funny how you try and call me out, but don't call anyone else out on all there name-calling...I may have done it too, but only to give them a taste of their own medicine.

Now...

What do you have to say about Tony Allen demonstrating that he's actually a better basketball player than Battier will ever be? I used to think that overall they were about the same, but Allen, despite suffering a major injury in his career, has shown more improvement since Rudy Gay went down than Shane Battier has shown his entire career...and guess what? Allen didn't cost anyone a lottery pick and he gets paid less than Battier.