And this is coming from a Michael Bay fanboy. You can't ****ing relax and enjoy a movie a least once in your life and not taking it so seriously?
Dude, take your own advice. From American Idol to criticizing what other people think. You're the master of this.
Sucker Punch made Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen look like Citizen Kane. We could post a poll but more people have watched Transformers Revenge of the Fallen than will have watched Sucker Punch. So it's just unfair.
Oh look who we have here. Another Michael Bay fanboy felt insulted. Don't you have a black and white movie to catch?
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen 20% on RottenTomatoes. Franchise name and have more fanboys base. Don't know what turd you were watching. I'm pretty sure you didn't even go and watch SP. Your reviews sound exactly from some reviews that I have read. Seems like you have something against Zack Snyder the director.
This received bad reviews from critics, but I don't care. I enjoyed this film. The plot, or lack thereof, is not going to winning any awards, but it was enough to keep me interested. No emotions attached, I just enjoyed the action.
Seems like percicles is the only one who doesn't enjoy this movie if he even saw it. From a guy who doesn't like Zack Snyder and from bad critic reviews I'm surprised he said he saw it. Most of my co-workers are saying the same thing. The movie is not as bad as the reviews on rotten tomatoes but they got it right that the story was a big mess but the actions was enough to entertain them.
I thought the movie was horrible. Bad story and the action felt like watching someone play zombie mode in COD. I watched Kick Ass for the first time afterward and it was a lot better. I like 300 and Watchmen.
I hated this film. I liked watchmen and 300. (My biggest gripe about Watchmen was Akerman's performance. This movie had almost an entire cast of Akermans.)
I pin that more on Snyder than I do Akerman. I don't think Akerman is a great actor but I also think Snyder's direction treats actors as secondary to the visuals and they become prop pieces like the everything else in the movie.
Ok well, this is one of those movies I feel the need to review, so here goes... Saw this early on the day it came out, along with my 10-year-old son. My impressions while watching: Spoiler Oh, look, it's opening kind of like Moulin Rouge. Ok, cool I guess. Oh, look, it's a sort of pantomime dialogue-free opening montage. Cool I guess, since that was the most well-regarded part of Snyder's Watchmen. Ok. Oh, ok there they are having a funeral, in the rain, looking down on the coffin, there's even a flower tossed in. While music plays. Ok. Zack must have REALLY liked that scene in Watchmen, since he recreated it here. Ok whatever. Oh, look, there is a scene in a car, looks like the green-screen bit from Sin City, where nobody making the movie understood how cars work or look. Hmm, ok, this little blond waif whose rich mommy just died, and who, somehow, some way, apparently just accidentally also killed her little sister while trying to PROTECT her from evil Step Daddy.. so she is messed up in the head.. *so they say*.. and this being back in like the '30's or so, you could get away with that sort of thing, locking up people against their will in 'Insane Asylums', which Evil Step Daddy does, to he can twirl his moustache and get all the dead mommy's money for himself. In other words, little waif is screwed. Ok, cool I guess. Ok, here they are dragging her in. Zack is showing us little important details. Ok. A guy with a key, look there's a guy with a cigarette lighter, hm the cook has a knife, and look there is a map of this huge scary place. Well, she ain't sayin much but she is observant. Must be important somehow.. cool enough I guess. Oh look, now we are in an elementary school cafetorium, with a little stage on the end. And oh look there's that same lady from Watchmen, the really old lady who was drinking herself to death. Oh, now she is like from Transylvania now or something. And she's a glamorous eastern-European psychiatrist, and she is making the troubled girls act out their troubles on a little stage so that everybody can all ignore them all at the same time. Looks like a brilliant treatment plan. Oh wait, that nice young orderly is talking about the little waif as though she is not even there, telling Evil Step Dad that *In Five Days*, some dude will be stopping by to do the ol pokey pokey on the girl's brain, because that kind of brain-poke guy must keep the same kind of schedule as orthodontists, and it can only be done like every two weeks or something. Ok, so little waif hears this, man, is she gonna be scared! Or worried! Or.. concerned? Pensive maybe? Ummm. Is this girl's face carved out of wood or something? Something is kind of wrong here, because her face does not register or show any sort of an emotional response to anything at all. Maybe she's catatonic. But like literally, it looks like her face is incapable of moving. Weird. Ok so at this point, I think I must have blacked out for a second or something, because all of a sudden, the five days are up (wth?) and Dr Pokey is there, and then all of a sudden now she is not her any more, just as the Dr is about to do the dirty deed, but now, um, ok she is now some totally other girl in a blond waif wig, and she jumps up and starts complaining about how unsexy lobotomies are. And.. umm, ok now we are like in a secret brothel/moonshine palace/white slavery version of Radio City Music Hall, but it's all the same people, that nice orderly now has a little rat moustache and apparently they are all now in the 50's instead of the 30's and it's now like the Rat Pack kind of thing. Ok, cool. And now we get to really see some sexy girls doing their sexy-sexy and stuff. Well, maybe? Kinda expected that, from the previews and all. You know, sexy seductive dancing and stuff. Because they are all young hottie prostitutes who have to dance and seduce the guys with the bucks in order to earn their keep as opposed to.. well.. heck if I know. Ok well they are not really sexy, and nobody is really dancing, but here's the little waif again, ok so she is still in the movie after all. The 'Chipper' girl is showing her around, and telling her that being an enslaved prostitute isn't really that bad, well except for her because *In Five Days*, she is screwed, so, oh well. Wondering at this point if maybe they just put a little blond wig on a mannequin and wheeled it around, because I don't remember if this waif spoke, but her face never moved, I do know that. Now all of a sudden, the old lady from Watchmen plays some modern techno music on a reel-to-reel and says 'DANCE!' to 'babydoll', while 'sweet pea' and some other Disney characters are standing around watching. Well she won't dance, she just looks like maybe they grabbed the wrong blond waif off the street and said 'Come be in this movie' and she didn't know what to do. Kind of like those dreams you have where you are taking a test but you haven't studied. Wait! A dream! Hold on a minute... Oh wait, ok now she's starting to move a little.. maybe we are about to see some cool dancing, like in Moulin Rouge and Chicago.. yeah! Ok I blacked out again because the movie changed again. Now the waif is not dressed like an extra in 'Bob Fosse Hands', but instead she's.. she's.. LARPing? Like those nuts you see dressed up like Sailor Moon or something. Ok, well, oh yeah she's outside and it's snowing and all alone in this giant Japanese dojo-looking place. Ok, cool. She heads inside, and holy heck it's Leonard Nimoy, pleasantly reading some lines off of cue cards, sounding like the narrator in one of those filmstrips in school when they were trying to teach us how to brush our teeth. Ok, cool, he gives her a sword and a gun, and tells her that if she wants to get free from the 'Dr-Pokey-in-the-brain/Las-Vegas-Bunny-Ranch' thing, she has to go find a bunch of junk, but then also says 'Hah on you, I am not telling you the last thing you need!' Because.. well, ummm... oh and one last thing.. no I mean, that's what he says, every time we seem him, Spock says 'Oh one last thing' and then says something else. This time it's Hey look at the three giant samurai dudes coming to get ya! And the waif is like 'Oh heck, this is like the hardest level of Demon's Souls!' But she does a bunch of slow-motion things and can suddenly jump high and flip and use her sword and kill giant rocket-launching machine gun samurai with her pistole and .. ok that was kind of cool, she killed them all, and she has some cool weapons, and she's a little Sailor Moon Badass, her blond bangs flip enticingly in her eyes, and, well, her face still hasn't moved, but she spoke so I know she's not actually a mannequin, unlike Kim Catrall.. And then all of a sudden.. No no wait. Hold up. She's breathing heavily now, so apparently while I was blacked out and watching exploding machine-gun samurai, I just MISSED the most awesome little hottie sexy dance EVER. DAMNIT. Everyone is clapping! WTF Zack?? I just watched someone play a videogame for the last ten minutes and everyone ELSE in the movie got to watch some hot dancing?!?! Awwww c'mon man! Well the rat-moustache guy thinks the waif should be on the big stage for the big show, but the old lady from Watchmen doesn't wanna let her, and the rat moustache guy says Yeah huh! And the old lady says, well ok. So then.. ok wait a minute. My kid kind of somehow made me watch some of a movie from last year called Dragonball Evolution. Chow Yun Fat was in it for God's sake! But there is this asian chick, ok she's kind of hot, but NOOOOOO it's the same girl! She was in THAT movie! And now she is in this one too! Aww crap. NOT a good sign! Ok, well, that sweet pea girl can act a little, and her chipper sister what's-her-name was ok, sorta 'spunky' (I believe the character description of that character in the pre-production meetings, they said 'Who is this character? and Zack said 'She's the 'kinda spunky one' and they were all like 'Oh, ok.') But the waif's face still hasn't moved and HOLY CRAP ZACK, STOP WITH THE EXTREME CLOSE UPS OF THAT GIRL MAN! She is starting to look really really unappealing, dude! Oh and who is that other girl, the one who looked like a half-drowned cat? Is that the disney chick who had like sex videos or something? Vanessa whats-her-name? Ew. Ok well whatever, there is still a lot of cool stuff coming, I saw so in the previews. So the waif rescues the chipper girl from being sexually squashed by the cook from Beetle Bailey, and suddenly all the dancing prostitutes like her and decide to follow her suddenly-made-up plan to steal (you guessed it!) a cigarette lighter, the cook's knife, a map and the key. Personally I would have just ganged up and beat the rat moustache guy up and taken his key and unlocked the doors and run away, but that's not fantastological and sexy-dancing enough, so that's why Zack is like an important Hollywood dude and I am not. Ok so somehow the waif knows that anyone who watches her dancing (Ummmm.. Zack! Hello? Zackypooo? Could WE watch some of the dancing this time, pretty please? I mean, if it is so magical and awesome and hot and stuff? Please?) is like hypnotized or asleep or something, so people can pretty much just do whatever they want while she dances. So we get to see Babydoll dance this awesome dance and.. PSYCH! No, YOU DO NOT!! HAhahaha on you! No, we are going to watch someone play Wolfenstein for a while! So, Spock shows up again and says some stuff off cue cards again and the girls play Wolfenstein while the girl from Dragonball plays Mechwarrior, and they make a big blimp explode and they get the map they need. Well, really, the sweet pea girl just goes and photocopies the map. But babydoll is REALLY out of breath so it must have been an even AWESOMER dance! Damn you Zack!! This isn't funny any more! well anyway, they think their plan is working really well, but Zack wrote the script so that the rat moustache guy is all suspicious, so he is. So she dances for another guy and now I THINK the girls are all playing Warhammer. Spock is there again on the plane they are suddenly all in, says more stuff and then tells them to all do that amazingly-cool 'Ninja-Landing' pose as they jump out of the plane without parachutes. So they fight their way through that big scene in Lord of the Rings and go down into the fire mountain to get rid of the One Ring.. er, I mean.. She murders a harmless little baby dragon and steals the 'fire crystals' in its neck, and the big mommy dragon gets all mad and chases them around and eats some of their airplane, and then babydoll decides to kill it too really easily by.. poking it in the brain with a pokey thing..? Hmmmmmm... Ok so yeah we missed yet another awesome dance. I am beginning to think we will NEVER get to see this little stone-faced sailor-moon girl do anything interesting. So, the rat moustache guy comes to them and says 'I know you have all been naughty' and then tells them how nice he has been to them all, and so they should stop, but they secretly don't stop. Even though the sweet pea girl sort of wants to stop. Well then the disney chick gets all upset thinking about her naked pictures on the internet or something, and the bad moustache guy and the old lady from Watchmen trick her into confessing their secret plans by telling her 'It's ok, you can trust us, now tell us your secret plans' and she does. So the girls get an old radio and play some hot techno music for the cook from Beetle Bailey so he will not notice that they are stealing his knife, and the waif dances another dance we don't see up on a table in the kitchen, but some idiot dumped out a ton of water and it messed with the cord of the radio, so while all the girls talk to Spock again, and then improv a scene from The Great Train Robbery as if it was set in the world of Will Smith's 'I, Robot' (not to be confused with the awesome Isaac Asimov novel 'I, Robot' which was actually cool and interesting and intelligent, thus guaranteeing that it had no resemblance to Will Smith's 'I, Robot')... ..but apparently if the music stops because spilled water messes with the frayed electrical cord, babydoll can't actually dance, and so the cook wakes up and kills the chipper girl, and rat moustache comes in and thinks that it is time to kill some more of his 'assets' (heh heh heh get it?) so he thankfully shoots the asian chick from Dragonball and then also the Disney drowned-cat girl, so that was a high point in the movie. So then everybody leaves the room except the rat moustache guy and the waif, and MAYBE her face moved in this scene, but I don't think so. Anyway she figures out that all she really needed to do was stab the rat moustache dude and just take his dang key. So she does. And so now we are just down to the waif and... drum roll... the girl back at the beginning who was on stage in the waif wig.. they are the only ones left.. HHmmm.. hmmm... HHHMMMMMmmmm... Man Zack you are working that word processor today dude! I feel ya man! So, umm.. we are still in some kind of a dream of the waif's, because they are still burlesque prostitutes and not just mental patients, but that's ok I guess at this point. They set a fire and unlock doors and stuff, and sneak by a dude listening to his Ipod (yes, he was wearing the white Ipod headphones in his ears! Yes! Awesome Zack! Anachronism rocks!) and then decide that now since there are like a half dozen bad guys standing around near the exit, that they can't sneak out another way or just wait for them to move or leave or something.. instead the script says babydoll has to go up to these guys and like make a distraction so the sweet pea girl can escape. Because.. well... umm.. because.. Spock told her the last thing she needed to get her freedom was a mystery, and she realized that the mystery item was her own self-sacrifice, so he lied and it wasn't about her freedom at all but someone elses... something like that. Anyway, she walks up and gets one of the thuggy italians to punch her in the face, while sweet pea escapes. And the very moment of her peaceful acceptance of getting punched in the face, Zack brings us back to 'reality' where she was really getting the brain-poke from the orthodontist dude, and he gets all upset because she wasn't crying or begging or screaming about it. So they figure out that it was really the orderly dude who forged the order for the brain-poke, and he gets taken away, and we see that yes, in fact, babydoll's face NEVER ACTUALLY MOVED AT ALL during the entire movie, even while sitting there all pretty and peacefully lobotomized. Of course, maybe Zack was trying to say that she was lobotomized all along, and that's why her face never moved and we never saw her dance. I dunno, I just wanted to see her dance at least a little. Anyway, the sweet pea girl apparently stole a pretty dress and fixed up her hair and was about to try to sneak her way onto a bus to Fort Wayne Indiana (which I think must be the incarnation of the nicest place on earth), but there are some Mounties there who are about to catch her, but then Leonard Nimoy turns out to be the bus driver, and lies to the cops, and the girl gets on the bus and then there is some more voice-over talking about something or other, but I couldn't really hear it because my ten-year-old son was tugging on my sleeve saying 'Can we go? Can we go? Can we go now?' But I had heard that there were like some actual dance numbers playing during the credits because they apparently filmed a bunch of them and felt like they should at least be in the movie SOMEWHERE, so we stayed, and damnit Zack! The only people dancing are like the asian chick and the old lady from Watchmen and the rat moustache guy. Well heck, no wonder they cut them from the movie. Apparently the cute little waif never ACTUALLY danced at ALL. And then it was over. ***** If you got this far, I will just say, I didn't HATE this movie. This movie was not bad on the level of something like Speed Racer or Ninja Assassin or Transformers 2. This movie had some incredible imagery, and maybe some coolish concepts, if you think of maybe what an actual GOOD movie would have been like sort of mixing the concepts of Shutter Island and Inception. Or maybe this movie just needed DiCaprio in it, I don't know. All I do know is, the movie as it sits now is extremely disappointing. And I like Zack, I enjoyed 300, and while I don't think of Watchmen as a success, I chalk that up more to flawed source material as well as horrible casting. And the same goes for Sucker Punch. Hopefully there is a Director's Cut out there that will make this into something that doesn't cause actual pain while watching it. Emily Browning may be an attractive girl. I don't know, because the way she was shot in this film, she was hideous, like a little female version of Mickey Rourke. And the other cast members were barely memorable, but none of them had any charisma or breath of life, or anything. I am starting to think that Zack may be kind of like Gary Kubiak - a fine offensive coordinator, but just out of his league as a head coach. Zack can put together amazing images on the screen, but when the story around it is completely in his hands, he seems to lose sight of what he is doing, and it turns into a mess. And I actually kind of get what he was going for with this thing. I have not watched a TON of Anime, but I have seen enough to recognize that that is what he was ultimately trying to do, to take what would seem like maybe one of the more esoteric mind-bending anime cartoons out there and make it for real. I get it. It just didn't work. Anyway, I can see maybe watching this on cable and DVR'ing past all the parts where people are standing around talking just so I can watch the video-game sequences, because they were pretty cool. But other than that, I guess we are still waiting for an actual cool 'steam-punk' movie.
I'll expand on my 'last movie you watched' post. I don't go to the theater much nowadays. But the visuals for Sucker Punch were too good to pass up. It's the first movie that pulled me into a theater this year, so that's saying a lot. As I said earlier in this thread, I just want to see cool **** for 2 hours and I'm happy. As I said in the 'last movie' thread, it was a mash up of video games, music videos, and anime fan service. Great for the action scenes, very stylistic, cool editing, etc. Cool ****? Check. As for the rest of the movie? Well I don't expect much...or anything really. Just don't suck badly. Unfortunately, it did just that. It was the inverse of The Action, which was fun, riveting, featuring empowered women kicking butt. I'll spoiler the rest, since this is stuff not obvious in the trailer. Spoiler The rest of the movie was depressing, women getting owned, and worst of all, not interesting. It basically alternated between an over the top action scene to a scene where women are abused and/or trying to cope with it. It's like splicing scenes between Schindler's List and Big Trouble in Little China. (Slight exaggeration.) I thought it could've been a movie that paid off to both genders. Males get to see hot chicks in gratuitous action scenes, while females get to see women take charge and be the heroes. Instead, right after each action sequence we jump into a boner killing scene where women are mistreated and ultimately they fail in every way, save for one gets away, and only because the main character had to sacrifice herself to a man. And there's not much to care for the characters, as it seemed to attempt. We don't know much about any of them, and the only reason you sympathize is because you don't want to see anyone in that situation period. You might care even less for the action scenes because you know it's just in her imagination, but as I said, I just wanted to see cool ****. So it didn't really bother me. It was ultimately a lame premise to set up stunning action scenes which I have no problem with and expected. But the premise was so detracting and ran opposite of the 'fun' of the action that I walked out of the theater thinking it was a Fail of a movie. And from the rest of the packed theater's reaction, it sounded like most agreed. Like Nero, I actually recommend it. Just get it on DVD, Blu-Ray, Netflix, whatever, and fast forward to the action scenes. They are incredibly entertaining, especially if you're into a mashup of geek fantasies.
Speaking of hot chicks with swords and a stupid plot caught a movie called "DOA" the other night on TBS. http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi128057625/ It does have Collin Chou, Eric Roberts and Jaimie Pressley, when she was still hot. Pretty much a low budget Mortal Kombat ripoff but with hotter women.
I 2nd this. The action sequences were so out of context with the main arc of the movie that the segments felt like watching Blu-Ray demos at Costco or Bestbuy and wondering if that tv will fit in you living room and look just as awesome. I wanted to like this movie. Xbox and anime with hot chicks rolled into one! Maybe expectations were too high or the whole rape and exploitation themes were too much of a boner kill to flick off that thinking cap. No, I don't choose your lobotomized storytelling Zach Snyder, so I'm not cool enough to like your movie or the ****ty moral. I was reading Youtube comments about Zach Snyder's "symbolism" in the movie. Conversation got too high brow when it was interspersed between random F-bombs and N-bombs. Speaking of boner inducing moments.... Spoiler were the lack of them Zach Snyder's attempt to be "artsy"? Yeah, we get dead serius when gratuitous sex and the marketing strategy behind it to lure people in is replaced with gratuitously violent, over-the-top action scenes. How empoweringly serius and meeningful! GRRRL POWER! ....but they get raped, tortured and murdered at the end.
funny that I"m just now catching up with all the seasons of Entourage, but 3 chicks in that movie were on the show (Pressley, Sarah Carter, Holly Valance) and had shrooms with Eric Roberts.... never caught the movie, I remember it was an "exclusive" to Blockbuster since it was released by the Weinstein Studio, so I need to watch it just for the hell of it.
Nero, I thought when you said "Gary Kubiak" I thought you had wrote "Stanley Kubrick".:grin: and OMG that was one long ass post.
