Do you think the Gerald Wallace to Portland trade was lopsided?

I have to try to look for the article I also remember reading the only reason why the Grizzlies took on Zach Randolph was so they would make the minimum payroll and not have to incur other fines from the league not necessarily because they thought he would be 'the man' in memphis

 

Do you think Spanoulis for Scola was lopsided?

 

At the time it certainly wasn't. The Spurs got to unload a bad contract and bring in a talented Euro player who was unlikely to stay in the US in return for an older foreign player who they didn't think would fit in with Tim Duncan anyway.

 

Lakers 2 years before Gasol: 42 wins, 45 wins, 2 1st round exits
Lakers 3 years since Gasol: 57 wins, 65 wins, 57 wins, 2 championships, 1 finals appearance.

Scola, Wallace, whichever other player you name in modern NBA. NOBODY was even close to Gasol in terms of adding wins on the court. Even Rasheed Wallace "lopsided" trade improved a Pistons team that was already going to the Eastern Conference finals.

 

Hell yeah it was lopsided. Who the hell just hands out a player like G.Wallace for D.Cunningham, Low 1st round pick plus a broken down Pryzbilla?

Someone on this board pointed out there was a connection between Portland's front office and Jordan that goes a long way back and how they are good freinds. If thats true then this trade makes sense.

I think Bud, Hill + Jeffries is a way better offer then Portlands. We could have even thrown in a future pick maybe.

 

This is the most important point here. The Wallace trade is pretty lopsided, and will probably turn out to be more lopsided than the Gasol trade from a pure talent stand point. However, the trade hasn't led to an immediate shift in the league's balance of power like the Gasol trade did.

 

Also think the fact that Lakers won the championship, and the blazers are not even going to win a playoff series, people doesnt comment about this trade.

With or without this trade, Portland wouldnt win a playoff series, so why bother talking about this.

Do you care if the last place in a competition took some banned substances? Nope, because the results wont change

 

GW just went off for 40 pts tonight vs the Thunder.

 

If we only check result, Marc Gasol is a hell of Center, how is that more lopsided than Utah giving away Deron?

 

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I honestly don't think the Gasol trade was that lopsided. These kinds of trades will always seem lopsided because one team wants to get rid of their star for expirings, cap space and draft picks to move on. Memphis was probably looking at the future anyways, and they were better off taking a lopsided deal back then.

The thing that pissed me off about the Gasol trade isn't how lopsided it was but how it instantly transformed the lakers into a first round exit team to instant contenders. They practically helped the lakers start another damn dynasty...

 

noone really expected pau to become the best pf in the league after being an all star, but fringe one at that.

 

Because Portland won't win the ship.

 

I don't think the Bulls' pursuit does anything to disprove that other teams felt they didn't get a chance to outbid the Lakers for Gasol.

Well, hindsight and Memphis' foresight. You can say it was an accident, dumb luck or whatever, but trading away Marc Gasol for the allegedly pitiful package they received turned out pretty well for them. No one in Memphis should still be regretting that trade. They've got a great center (which is very hard to find, as Rockets fans know), a great frontline, they're spanking the Rockets and going to the playoffs. And, next season will probably be even better.

And, honestly, Charlotte made the right decision too. They were not going to be anything good until they could suck again. And they had money-trouble to boot. So they'll reboot, find some good players in the draft and hopefully grow to be more than mediocre. If you think Houston had the better offer, at least rest assured that the Bobcats got to think carefully about all the offers and chose the one they liked best. They didn't owe us anything. And, they'll have to live with the results.

 

This is something I've wondered about, especially something that I know Grizzlies fans were whining about the end of last year. Namely, I remember that a lot of Grizzlies fans said at the end of last season that if it hadn't been for them messing around with AI for the first 10 games, where they went 1-9, they would have had a significantly better record.

If that's true, and the Grizzlies say, go 4-6 or 5-5 instead during that stretch, that means they could have 43 or 44 games last year, and then this year they win 45 or 46. Not a real improvement.

Combine that with the fact that I can't see any of their young players taking a further leap (all of them are more or less at the point where you're 80% of whom you will be ), and it really looks like Memphis's best case scenario is the Hawks. And I mean best case.

 

I think they have cause for optimism with Xavier Henry, OJ Mayo, and Mike Conley. Besides that, when you have a good base, I think your fortunes can get dramtically better in a single season with some intelligent management, good coaching, and some magic. The Olajuwon Rockets went from mundane to champions in a couple of seasons. They've got a good center-pf tandem to build on. They might not amount to anything, but they also have a chance to really pop.

 

Comparing to the Olajuwon Rockets is not fair. Who is the Olajuwon on this Grizzlies team? Last time I checked, they didn't have a single top-15 player, let alone a top-two player.

 

WHAT? YOU MEAN ZACH RANDOLPH ISN'T COMPARABLE TO HAKEEM THE DREAM OLAJUWON?

Surely you jest.

 

Can anyone get the facts right? It was two first round picks, not one.

The trade was:

To Charlotte:

2011 conditional New Orleans 1st round pick
2013 conditional Portland 1st round pick
Joel Pryzbilla
Dante Cunningham
Sean Marks

To Portland:

Gerald Wallace

 

Portland's always getting good trades. Look at Camby last year. Is there a reason the Rockets can't get in on some of these?