G - kobe/rose G - wade F - lebron F - dirk C - dwight defense G - paul G - wade F - lebron F - deng C - howard top 5 players 1 - howard 2 - lebron 3 - wade 4 - kobe 5 - durant yours?
G - kobe G - wade F - lebron F - Pau Gasol C - dwight defense G - Kobe G - wade F - lebron F - deng C - howard top 5 players 1 - Lebron 2 - Dwight 3 - Wade 4 - Kobe 5 - Durant All-Rook team 1-John Wall 2-Landry Fields 3-Evan Turner (really by default though) 4-Blake Griffin 5-Demarcus Cousins
All rookie teams aren't by positions, it's simply the best 5 rookies in the first team, the next 5 best in the second.
Rose gets no love eh? I don't think Wade deserves to be on the first team this year, and certainly not higher than Rose on the top 5 player list imo. If you have two guys in the all nba first team, two guys in the top 3 best player list, you better do better than having the 6th best record in the league.
these rankings are more about individuals and their individual accomplishments rather than team accomplishments. tmac made all-nba 2nd team having the worst record in the L in 03-04. kobe made 3rd team all-nba despite no playoffs in 04-05. wade has been a better individual player than rose (more points, rebounds, steals, blocks, fg%, 3pt%). and wade is getting a lot of defensive love lately with his ridiculous # of blocks in the past few weeks: 2-3 games of 5 block games. wade: 25.6ppg, 6.6rpg, 4.9apg, 49.8%fg, 57.7%TS, 25.4PER, ORTG 113, DRTG 102, win share 11.2 rose: 24.9ppg, 4.2rpg, 7.9apg, 43.9%fg, 54%TS, 23.4PER, ORTG 112, DRTG 102, win share 11.3 wade definitely has the more impressive statline.
They don't just look at stats, they look at wins. In 2007-2008, Garnett has taken the all-nba first team over Nowitzki and Duncan despite having inferior stats because his team was not just winning, but they were the best team in the NBA. Rose will and should get first team over Wade because of the same reason. Rose is the leader of the best team in the east, whiles Lebron and Wade has managed to occasionally become the joke of the league. Of course Lebron will get first team, but Wade will get second team behind Rose, or first team with rose.
All NBA First Rose/Wade/Durant/Lebron/Dwight All-Rookie First team Wall, Fields, Cousins, Monroe, Griffin Second Team Patterson and whoever else.
1st team: Rose Wade James Dirk Dwight 2nd team : Manu Kobe Durant Gasol Amare 3rd team: Paul Williams Melo Love Duncan Defense: Kobe Wade Lebron Iggy Howard Rookie 1st-team: Griffin Wall Monroe Fields Cousins Rookie 2nd-team: Davis George Neal Johnson Favors Patterson being benched for thirty or so games pretty much costs him the spot.
maybe b/c garnett back then was regarded also as a top 2 defender in the L. i don't know, just a thought. he was a much better all-around player than dirk in his prime. wade will get votes for DPOY and he's 3rd in efficiency in the entire league.
He was certainly a better all around defender than Dirk, but definitely not better than Duncan defensively, yet he still got first team over Duncan. And I don't think there was ever an MVP who was NOT on the all nba first team.
To those of you putting Kobe on the 1st team defense, is this what you're predicting, or do you actually think he deserves it? I don't think there is any legit argument for Kobe being one of the two best defensive guards in the league this season (or any of the past half dozen seasons, but that's a different issue).
thats why i had a difficult time putting him or kobe on the first team. wade definitely has had a better statistical year than both, and has had a bigger impact defensively than both. i think wade will be shafted b/c of the rose's hype and kobe's reputation. it would be amazing that wade will be among the top 5 players of his generations and he doesn't have any all-nba 1st teams to show for it.
1st Team All-NBA G: Derrick Rose G: Dwayne Wade F: Lebron James F: Kevin Durant C: Dwight Howard 2nd Team All-NBA G: Russel Westbrook G: Kobe Bryant F: Dirk Nowitzki F: Amare Stoudemire C: Pau Gasol 3rd Team All-NBA G: Rajon Rondo G: Chris Paul F: Zach Randolph F: Lamarcus Aldridge C: Nene All-Defensive 1st Team G: Rajon Rondo G: Thabo Sefalosha F: Luol Deng F: Kevin Garnett C: Dwight Howard All-Defensive 2nd Team G: Chris Paul G: Andre Iguodala F: Ron Artest F: Grant Hill C: Chuck Hayes All-Rookie 1st Team Blake Griffin John Wall Demarcus Cousins Landry Fields Greg Monroe All-Rookie 2ndTeam Patrick Patterson Gary Neal Jordan Crawford Wes Johnson Samardo Samuels
Garnett took one team out of the 1st round w/o the big 3. He might have been tmac if not getting in the right situation. I think dirk is a much better player. He took his team to the finals as a lead dog.
