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SF Situation: "No. Other people are playing better. Other people deserve to play."

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Mar 22, 2011.

  1. pugsly8422

    pugsly8422 Member

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    Are you talking about T-Will or Gilbert Arenas?

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  2. pbthunder

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    There's a concept in probability called Expected Value. Basically, if I'm paying you $3 everytime you flip a coin and get a head (probability 50%), the EV is 0.5 * $3, or $1.50. If I'm charging you $1.75 to play, in the long run, you lose money. If I charge you $1.25 to play, it's a good gamble, though if that's your bus fare, and you can't afford to lose it, maybe you don't take the bet.

    So, would it be worth while to bet a 1st-round pick for a one-in-four chance to get LBJ? I would take that bet. With T-Will, they thought he might turn into something worth much more than a mid-round pick. How about trading those three picks to move up and take Eddie Griffin. Was that a bad bet? How about when Charlotte traded Kobe for Vlade Divac? I think they made a good bet, considering that they had no idea what Kobe would turn into.

    How about when Boston selected Len Bias with a high draft pick? Would you call that a bad gamble because Bias died of an apparent drug-induced heart attack? How about selecting Yao Ming in the draft, when we weren't totally sure China would let him come?
     
  3. ashishduh

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    If you're serious about this comparison then you're probably a new NBA fan. GA was an amazing player before he got injured. Efficient enough and got teammates involved with low turnover rates. Also did some nice things in the playoffs (they weren't bottom feeders) and was arguably the most clutch player in the league.

    Without him that team would have been today's Cavaliers.
     
  4. pugsly8422

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    Yeah I'm new. I joined in 2002 and amassed almost 2k posts, but never realized this was a basketball site.

    I think anyone will tell you Arenas was a volume scorer. He took massive amounts of shots to get his points. For his career he is a 42% shooter, and has averaged over 3 turnovers per game. A 5.4 assist per game average is decent, but nothing to brag about, especially for someone handling the ball as often as he did. For someone making his salary, I would expect a lot more from someone that plays 40+ minutes and takes 20+ shots per game.

    Lets see...

    I don't know, but in my opinion, that sounds a lot like Arenas.

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  5. Hakeemtheking

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    Not only Williams is in the dog house, he is a hot dog when he plays, which explains why he is not playing. Whatever happened to that dude with dazzling passes (i.e. Portland game)?
     
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    I can't believe people are evaluating Terrence Williams based on 12 FREAKING GAMES this season! I mean for crying out loud people. The guy hasn't gotten any significant playing time all season, and the times his been out there his been under an intense microscope, with a coach who's looking for excuses not to play the guy.

    T-Will still has a couple of more years on his rookie contract so we still got him on this team for the foreseeable future. Hopefully the new coach coming in next year will give him a legit shot to display his skills and see what he can add to this team.
     
  7. Carl Herrera

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    So, we should instead evaluate Terrence Williams based on what?
     
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    The fact that he was drafted 11th, of course. Just like Thabeet will be awesome because he was drafted 2nd.
     
  9. apollo33

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    Based on his broad and wide shoulders. We all know NBA stars have big shoulders.
     
  10. heypartner

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    Certainly not based on Coach's quotes to Feigen and in your article, since rocketblaze said RA is looking for excuses not to play TWon't.
     
  11. SuperMarioBro

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    Honestly, I think both our coach and Terrence are a little too stubborn and prideful to make this work. Either way, I think most of the blame falls on Williams.
     
  12. rocketblaze

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    There is nothing to evaluate him on. Which is what I'm saying. We should wait and really see him play in significant playing time, during consecutive games. To really evaluate T-Will on what he can and can't do on the court.

    Other wise people are going to go on one or two plays to define what this kid can do on the court.
     
  13. Carl Herrera

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    What about the coaching staff, on what basis should they evaluate Terrence Williams?
     
  14. heypartner

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    "Nothing"??

    r e a l l y

    We?

    Who cares about "we." That's just some stupid bbs point to win an argument or defend your position about why a new guy should play.

    "We" are not at practices.

    The coach says TWon't is not as ready as others. In this article and as a direct answer to Feigen. The coach does not need to see him on the court. He knows. And every time he's been on the court lately, that fact has been confirmed on video.
     
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    yep... nothing else to evaluate him on.

    oh how i wish there were some way to evaluate a player besides actual games! if only there were some sort of setting where players can prepare and be evaluated that the coaches could implement on days off... but alas! there is not!

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