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Some people here have short term memory of Brooks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by T-Slack, Mar 14, 2011.

  1. Rip Van Rocket

    Rip Van Rocket Contributing Member

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    Dragic has done great for us so far. He's averaging almost 8ppg in only 14 minutes per game. He's shooting 46% from the field and 38% from 3pt range. I like the way he pushes the ball up the floor. I like the fact that he puts out an effort on defense. He seems to be really happy to be part of the team, and he is just fun to watch. I'm looking forward to seeing what he does once he has a chance to learn the offense better.
     
  2. ryano2009

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    how many days have we gotten over .500 with brooks last season...?

    Listen, Brooks was my fav player on the rockets roster, but Lowry took his spot and made the most out of it, the guy got traded get over it, wish him the best and move on.
     
  3. Arun Sharma

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    I liked the guy big time. But... he is not the most important why we took Lakers to 7 and knocked out Portland.

    Yao was huge against Portland.
    Artest really was the key against Lakers: He had multiple 20+ games, rebounded well, and also assisted. He was very close to triple double in one of the game. Most importantly, he brought the attitude. Landry and Lowry off the bench were key against Lakers.

    So yes, he was important but not as important that we say he was the reason we beat those teams.

    He is a great shooter and may a sixth man for a good in the near future. I just don't see him being a reliable player. His defense is always going to bad.. he is just too small and light... he still has low iq and makes bad decisions often. Just because of his lack of being able to do other things eliminates him as a successful starting PG. He could be a dream to have on the bench once he gets healthy again.

    I wish him good luck.
     
  4. Arun Sharma

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    Dont forget we don't have our best player in the lineup aka Yao Ming.

    We started 0-5 (Yao ming limits + Brooks starting)

    Since then we are 33-29 and thats reasonable for a team without the best player.

    Also, We all know Brooks shot 30% for such a long time... for so many games.. of course, we lost quite a few games in trying to give him confidence back.
     
  5. JLOBABYDADDY

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    There are probably 10 good things I can say/ remember about my ex wife too but doesn't mean it was a bad decision for me to leave her based on the situation as it was at the time.......
     
  6. solid

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    I agree, Brooks is going to be the more talented player long term. How soon people forget. Brooks will come back strong. By next year for sure.
     
  7. The_Yoyo

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    Aaron Brooks is no longer a member of the Houston Rockets

    any threads like this should go in the NBA Dish
     
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  8. Vanilla Rice

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    I don't know if it was an issue with AB not playing well this year, or more of an issue of Lowry just being better. Better in all facets of the game. He may not be as good a scorer as AB, but he does everything else better. Facilitates, rebounds, defends, pushes the ball, finishes at the basket....I really think the only thing AB does better is score. Granted, when he's hot he's exceptional...but that doesn't make the rest of the team better.

    The argument of the Rockets being decent with AB last year doesn't hold up for me. One of the reasons they were good last year was Lowry's punch off the bench with the 2nd group.

    The contract situation and how AB handled it is just the icing on the cake on why they needed to trade him. Had the Rockets paid him what he'll likely get, he'd be an expensive backup PG. I doubt if Morey ever had that in mind when putting together Lowry's contract...I bet he always figured Lowry would be the starter.
     
  9. CXbby

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    Except some of us advocated starting Lowry since last year, during AB's career year. Brooks wasn't traded because of an ankle injury, he would've been traded either way. He was traded because we committed to the better player.

    1st. He was one of the reasons why we got past Portland and took the Lakers to 7 like Ron Artest was one of the reasons. That doesn't mean we have to hang on to everybody on that team.

    2nd. Last year with Yao being out and before the Martin trade, the ONLY time the team outscored its opponents was when Lowry was on the floor.

    3rd. Alan Henderson. Isaac Austin. Dana Barros. Recognize any of those names? Me neither.

    You are absolutely right that it is a confidence thing with Brooks. Which is too bad. The only role he had on this team was a spark plug off the bench. But since his confidence only allowed him to be productive in a starting role, and a cancer off the bench, this meant there was no role available at all, since the starting spot was already taken by a better player.

    As for the record with Lowry and Martin, they are 31-28 as the starting back court. That is better than what we had last year. With the key difference being Aaron had an ultra productive backup last year that ran up the lead or cut the deficit, while this year Lowry had one that sucked every lead dry like some kind of lead-sucking vampire bat the second he went to the bench.
     
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  10. aggie87

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    Morey said the reason he traded Brooks and Battier was because there was a good chance those guys will not want to return to the Rockets next year
     
  11. roflmcwaffles

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    OMFG, I didn't want to get into this thread because people aren't going to be convinced either way, but this has to be the STUPIDEST thing I have read on Cfans in a long time.

    Let me explain to you what a double team is. When someone is double teamed that means 2 players are covering that person at all times. This means due to the fact each team is allowed to have 5 and ONLY 5 players on the floor at any given time 1 Rocket is left open.

    Now let me explain how this helps, see when someone is left open for their shot they are more likely to make this shot this is due to the fact that it is easier to shoot without a hand in your face, and if you have ever played basketball it is pretty easy to confirm this fact, if not go outside and shoot some hoops then ask a friend of yours to stay in front of you with their hand in your face and come back to this thread and tell me which one was easier.

    Here is an article about Stephen Curry, who had a similar thing happen to him in college. He was also a superstar player and they decided to double team him the whole time because he avgs 30 points per game.

    http://www.aolnews.com/2008/11/26/loyola-md-holds-stephen-curry-scoreless-still-lose-by-30/

    Look at what his team did, see this is the benefit of having open players, they are more likely to make shots.

    I hope that helps you understand this complex concept of double teams.
     
  12. Downtownbrown

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    You know short term memory only last for 18 - 40 seconds! Of course we cant remember!
     
  13. blink

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    lol yao didn't dominate anything. ppl hate on lebron for falling short in the 4th but apparently yao "dominates" ..... by being completely ineffective on the post, boards and a liability down the stretch. You don't pass yao the ball in the post late in the 4th, he'll turn it over. You gave it to brooks or landry
     
  14. chenjy9

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    AB is NOT a ROCKET anymore. Why the hell is this thread still here? Move it into the Dish sub-forum please.
     
  15. josephnicks

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    no.. just no.. with yao, lakers probably close out in 5, 6 at most.. the lakers let up for game 4 after yao went down, you saw how they responded after game 1. the lakers were the better team period w/or w/out yao. add a healthy tracy and healthy yao and the rockets had a legitimate shot at winning it all.. probably dont meet the lakers until the wcf..
     
  16. Easy

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    You should want to move away from a Rockets board.

    If you do, I think you will be doing pretty well too.
     
  17. choujie

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    Brooks is good, that's why we got Dragic + 1st rounder for him.
    But Lowry is better, that's why he overtook Brooks and never looked back.

    Long memory: AB can score and bounce pass, but he can't do anything else decent from the day he stepped on the floor. Lowry used to be able to do everything except shooting well, now his shooting is catching up.
     
  18. anchel

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    You can't pass him for a reason, he's over-defended, he's creating opportunities for other guys with his simple presence, this is also domination. I just re-watched those series recently and believe me, Aaron Brooks was not a key of our success. I recognize he was more important against LA... Against Portland, Steve Blake helped his team more tah Brooks to the Rockets; we played better basketball with Kyle. Stats doesn't say all, specially with PGs, and more specially with a player like AB.

    Scola was great. Battier, Wafer, Landry, they all were also very important. Artest had a great 6th game but did it wrong in the previous 5. Brooks was inconsistent, bad at the defensive end, and didn't run the offense properly (yes, of course he had good numbers), he and Ron were the reasons why Yao was underutilized at times.
     
  19. TheFreak

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    The problem Brooks has is that what fans visualize as an 'ideal PG' is not what wins championships in the NBA, yet they still clamor for it. I can't figure it out, for the life of me.
     
  20. choujie

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    If you add "scoring" before talent, that can be true. But overall talent, Lowry wins. AB can't hustle, rebound, defense, control the temple, make teammates better like Lowry. Those thing require talent too.
     

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