Do you see any of Lamarcus Aldridge in Perry Jones? Not exactly the same type of game, but both are long, fluid and athletic. I'm really high on PJones' potential moving forward. He won't ever give you any, he'll just call you stupid if you disagree. I'd skip over his posts if he's talking about anything other than how these players are playing in a Euroleague game, and even then I'd be skeptical of his biases.
Perry Jones: I don't feel he is strictly a 4 at all. He if bulked up and worked on a post game he could, but that would take away a lot of the other aspects of his game that are at a super high level. My biggest issue with him is that I don't trust his mindset to be be a dominant NBA player. He lets it be Le. Dunn team, instead of saying no this is my team and we will not lose this game. He could become a Durant, but I just see more of a Lamar Odom/Luol Deng future for him. Terrence Jones: (@HMMMHMMM) I agree that he does seem to have maturity issues. In a draft with more players with superstar potential, I don't risk a pick on him at all. But this draft does not seem to have many wing/guard pot. superstars at all. He's not a Top 5 pick to me, but definitely a Top 10. Kenneth Fareid: (@albuster) I haven't gotten to see him play, so I'm looking forward to seeing his NCAA game. Everything I've heard of him reminds a lot of what was spoken about Milsap when he came out. I know this draft is weak, but with a lockout looming and if teams are actually strapped for cash, I don't see a team spending a first round pick on him with guarantee money (just like Milsap). Wouldn't be bad pick up at the Clippers pick though. John Henson: Of what I've seen of Henson I like at the 4. He would really need to get a big bigger to play post up defense in the pros, but he seems like he has the work ethic. He would probably become what Jeff Green is right now though hopefully more consistent. He would be yet another project big though. At some point though, you just don't have enough time and people to work with all these projects (Hill, Thabeet, TWill). Kemba: (@ rocketblaze) I'm sorry but his rise out of no where this year reminds way too much of Acie Law's rise out of no where with A&M a few years ago. Looks like we'll just have to agree to disagree on him, but I just haven't seen enough to warrant a lottery pick. High 20's maybe (like orlando pick), but not much higher.
I see TJones as a combo forward in the NBA, big enough to outmuscle small forwards and blow by the bigger guys (the player people wanted Beasley to be). Definitely gets it done on both ends, probably the best combination of perimeter and interior defense in the draft that I've seen; with a knack for racking up blocks and steals. Has good handles for his size with a legitimate perimeter game (unlike PJones who is strictly an inside/elbow player) although he doesn't appear to be much of a creator for his teamates, and has a small repetoire in the post. Maturity issues? Care to explain?
Okay, I can respect that, we can agree to disagree. Just to me his a lottery pick that will most likely fall, due to his lack of size. I wouldn't mind picking him with the PHX pick, if we get it. Eh, to me he kind of reminds me of Carmelo Anthony. With their similar body frame (Jones has the longer wingspan), and similar inside/ outside game. Carmelo isn't known to get his teammates involved much either...:grin: Oh well, thats to bad. He seem'd promising from that video, at the three...
It would be be cool if either Harrison Barnes or Terrence Jones were available where the Rockets are slated to pick.
I forget how many picks the Rockets have, where they are coming from, or where they might be at, but Kemba, Nolan Smith, or Jordan Hamilton would be cool too I think with the 2nd pick (If the Rockets have a 2nd pick that is-I forget--Realize I don't know where that 2nd pick may slated to be in the draft so my picks may not be realistic).
We only have three picks to worry about in the upcoming draft: -Rockets 2011 1st (depends on where Rockets finish in standings) -Suns/Magic 2011 1st (IF Suns make playoffs, we get their 1st. If they miss playoffs, we get ORLs) -LAC 2011 2nd (right to swap 2nd round picks with LAC, which we'll exercise)
I'm not a huge draftnik, but maybe Kemba or Nolan Smith may still be available for that potential pick #2 for Houston.
Perry Jones certainly is much more skilled than most 4's, but that's the position he ultimately will be most effective. I don't think his mindset is going to be a problem. To me he's a top2 pick (the other being Irving) just based on talent. I agree with LongTimeFan's assesment of him being similar to LaMarcus Aldridge, though I'd say that he also has some Lamar Odom in him. I agree with you about Terrence Jones possibly having maturity issues. Well, issues might be a bit too harsh, but he doesn't seem very mature judging from his bodylangue and some of the interviews I've watched. He might be a top10 talent, but I probably still woudn't take him. He's a tweener, who, out of necessity (not big/strong enough), most likely will have to play most of his minutes at the 3. I'm not sure I want to take a guy like that in the top10. Reminds me a lot of Beasley, which, to me, is not a good thing. I've only read good stuff about Fareid so far, but I've never actually watched him play. I've seen a few highlights, but I don't wanna judge player off youtube highlights. The thing that scares me a little bit is that he doesn't appear to be the sharpest knife in the drawer. (1, 2). Now you certainly don't have to be very smart or eloquent to be or become a good basketball player, but it brings back memories of our good old friend Joey Dorsey, which scares me a little bit. But again, I haven't watched him play yet.
They are owned by billionaires and there is no CBA, no salary cap. Many of the clubs spend many millions of euros on player development. They start with players when they are kids. Navarro has been playing with his club since he was like 8 or 9 years old if I remember right. The same club. There is no NBA team that invests anything like that in scouting and drafting in terms of time and money.
I've liked this kid since I saw him early in the year, but if I'm being honest I haven't watched much of him lately. I've read that he's struggled in the 2H but haven't seen any definitive numbers to show it (not that I don't believe it). That said, I'd be thrilled if we landed the 'next Michael Beasley'. Beasley has been a 14 ppg scorer since coming into the league. I'm not saying I want Beasley's off-the-court issues with TJones, but Beas' on court skill is undeniable. From an asset standpoint, our trade offers to other teams would be greatly enhanced if we had a Beasley type talent on a rookie scale contract. That alone would be worth it for me.
I guess that's where our opinions differ. To me, Beasley is an inefficient chucker, who gives you very little besides scoring. He's an awful defender, lacks basketball IQ and tends to kill the ball movement. He's a selfish player who puts up empty stats and doesn't help you win. I'm not saying Terrence Jones will be that guy, but whenever I watch Kentucky play he looks rather unimpressive to me. I also don't think you draft a player, just because you think others teams might value him in a trade later on. It might work out in some cases (e.g. Derrick Favors), but it's far from bullet proof (e.g. Beasley). Just my opinion though.
If Harrison Barnes slips to Houston, which seems more and more unlikely based on his recent play, I'd die a happy man. I watched him rack up 40 on Clemson a few days ago... I really thought he was overrated after he was billed a preseason AA, but he definitely came in to his own during conference play and led UNC to a regular season crown. His ability to close out games is off the charts...I've seen him drop daggers on a handful of ACC foes, including Clemson, FL State, BC, and VT. He's going to be a force in the league, no doubt.
Ya did some work there son. pssssssssst......zzpot.... passes a cold one to LongTimeFan. Sits back down on his cooler, flicks the ash off his smoke, then gives a short, sharp tug on his cane pole just to see the bobber dance on the water. zzpot puff puff
Looks like a potentially very deep draft for international big men, which is good since they are probably more likely to be mid lotto's rather than high ones. They all need beef with the exception of the Turkish guy who's already pretty big. ahahahaha, welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.
Two podcasts from yesterday that might be of interest to some of you: [ESPN] NBA Today: Ryen Russillo talks to David Thorpe about potential No. 1 picks for this year's draft. Plus, Russillo shares some thoughts on improving the Kings. (Draft talk from 12:43 to 27:47.) MP3: http://c.espnradio.com/audio/530417/nbatoday_2011-03-14-132917.mp3 Stream: http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/podcenter/?id=6216064&autoplay=1&callsign=ESPNRADIO [ESPN] B.S. Report: Bill Simmons and ESPN NBA Insider Chad Ford take a look back on last year's NBA draft and break down the NBA prospects in the NCAA tournament. MP3: http://c.espnradio.com/audio/530561/simmons_2011-03-14-163201.mp3 Stream: http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/podcenter/?id=6216943&autoplay=1&callsign=ESPNRADIO Spoiler I agree with Jimmer being in the Stephen Curry mold. I disagree about Irving not having all-star potential. I agree with Sullinger being a better version of Big Baby Davis. I'm still not sold on Barnes and think a slightly better version of Marvin Williams is a good comparison. Already forgot most ot the other stuff they talked about, but I don't see how Isaiah Thomas is any better than Jerome Randle, who went undrafted last year.
