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[Official] Texans Offseason 2011

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Jan 3, 2011.

  1. DonkeyMagic

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    he's been slated to go to the texans on a few mocks. I remember seeing a little grumbling that he could go higher but i'm not sure if other teams will take that chance given all the other quality DE/OLB pass rushers available.
     
  2. RocketMania1991

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    Not to familiar with Quinn but i've read he is being compared to our own Mario.
     
  3. DonkeyMagic

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    he ran a little slower than some expected (4.7), which has some wondering if he is actually a better fit in a traditional DE in a 4-3.

    Still, he has top 5 talent and the fact that he's still being considered at 11, and possibly higher, is amazing considering he didnt play last year
     
  4. gucci888

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    Not that a Forty time is everything, but I think you can factor in the fact that he didn't play last season into his time. But I agree that it's pretty amazing that he's still a potential Top 10 pick despite sitting out an entire season. Marvin Austin is having to work his way back up the draft board.
     
  5. REEKO_HTOWN

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    Might as well go BPA and grab Julio Jones.

    They ****ed themselves out of game changing defensive players by battle fightin' against Jacksonville.
     
  6. Fyreball

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    Yeah, if he had played last season, I think he would be going top 7, maybe even top 5.
     
  7. ROXRAN

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    I hate to say so but I am kinda leaning your way...It may be that Julio Jones is too good to pass, ...But. . .
    I think Robert Quinn has some Julius Peppers in him by the way this article from a year ago called it...so if he does land, I won't be disappointed...
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/425166-robert-quinn-the-monster-off-the-edge
     
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  8. rhino17

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    I would not mind Jones because he is as close to a sure thing as they are gonna get, I have no confidence the Texans correctly picking a 1st round defensive player, selecting Jones would eliminate their the need for them to even think which is a good thing
     
  9. leroy

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    Maybe, but then it would take a deeper level of thinking to make decent picks in the later rounds. I'd rather take a chance on a player that's known to be 1st round talent defensively, especially considering the new CBA will likely limit what he's going to get paid much more than in the past, than strictly BPA and hope that there's something left later one.
     
  10. emjohn

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    IMO, if you can't get a guy at #11 who looks to be a fantastic starter on defense*, if you can't trade up to get that guy.....take Julio Jones.

    Settling and reaching for another Kareem Jackson-level guy is not going to help this defense.

    I am a fan of Robert Quinn and would be fine if they took him.

    * Peterson, Fairley, Dareus, Amukamara, Von Miller, Quinn.

    I'd rather fill holes in FA and be sure we're taking care of a position rather than reaching for a guy that is going to be shaky. Pressure's on for results. When you need 6 new, capable, above board starters on opening day, the margin for error in the draft is non-existent. Needs time to learn the ropes? Pass.

    No Okoye. No Jackson. No Babin. No dice rolls. Ready out of the box hotshots only.
     
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  11. No Worries

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    I don't get the love for Julio Jones. I get that Jones is a physical specimen but ... Jones has a bit of a rep for dropping passes.

    I would prefer the Texans trade down their pick before drafting an offensive asset. Safety Rahim Moore (UCLA) is projected as an end of first round pick and would address one of the Texans's biggest holes on defense. Getting Moore and another pick would be better than drafting Jones, imho.
     
  12. Hey Now!

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    Agree, and to that end, I think they need to additionally consider degree of difficulty. CB is an extremely difficult position to learn. Even a surefire prospect like Patterson will likely struggle - they all do. That's why I keep thinking (hoping) they're going to target a pass-rsuhing beast of an OLB - someone they can just line up and say, "Sack *that* guy" - and, specifically, that they have their sights set on Miller come heck or high water.
     
  13. REEKO_HTOWN

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    I wouldn't put it past Kubes to make Rick Smith trade future picks in order to trade up and take Von Miller.

    He's coaching for his job and Rick is too. What's the use of thinking of the future when you won't have one if you fail to draft a Defensive game changer (McNair will not allow them to buy one in FA)?
     
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    I certainly wouldn't hate seeing that happen, as long as they don't give up something silly like a future first or second rounder. For once I'm hoping the "Good ol' boy" pipeline will pay off (it would probably be better if their was a stud LB from Colorado State, though).
     
  15. justtxyank

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    What makes you think this?
     
  16. Hey Now!

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    LOL. I was thinking the same thing. But I do think McNair has shortened Kubiak's leash, and I absolutely don't think he'll survive a 7, or fewer, win season.
     
  17. justtxyank

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    If everyone stays healthy, they win 7 or fewer games, and they lose their last game I might believe he gets fired. If they go 7-9, have a few injuries (so rare in the NFL!) and win the last game of the season, I think he will stay again.

    If he goes 8-8 or 9-7 I think he definitely stays.

    Edit: Whether or not any of that is ultimately true though, I don't think Smith or Kubiak really feel any more pressure than they did last year.
     
  18. MadMax

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    Yeah, I said that last year.
     
  19. REEKO_HTOWN

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    if this is the case, we are ****ed as fans.
     
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    This is how I feel. And I wouldn't be against it. Von is a stud.
     

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