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Wisconsin Legislators Leave State to Prevent Vote

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Feb 17, 2011.

  1. rtsy

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    Union teaches Michael Moore a lesson

    Michael Moore, champion of the working class, used non-union stagehands to film “Capitalism: A Love Story.” The porcine provocateur is promoting his anti-Wall Street jeremiad by giving free tickets to unions, but the American Federation of Teachers has turned them down because Moore didn’t hire any members of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees. “Michael Moore and one of our sister unions, IATSE, are in discussions about concerns the union has,” the AFT told ABC News. “The AFT has decided against accepting tickets until those issues are resolved.” Moore’s agent, Ari Emanuel, seems to blame the IATSE for treating documentarians as “second-class filmmakers.” “This is a Writers Guild, Screen Actors Guild and Directors Guild film, as all Michael’s films are,” Emanuel said. “He is a proud, dues-paying member of all three of these unions.”

    http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/item_sCK9AXSEsqhAtwpyoUkv5K#ixzz1FpdXGbcO

    Michael Moore has every right to hire non-union workers. The public also has every right to call him a big FAT-ASS hypocrite as well.

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  2. ROXRAN

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    so true. . . :grin:
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    i didn't know michael tried to break up a union. why are we discussing moore?
     
  4. GladiatoRowdy

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    To deflect from the subject.
     
  5. Depressio

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    I reluctantly agree with some stuff Michael Moore talks/films about.

    That said, I still think he's a fat douche who profits on the misery and poor state of affairs of others. Farenheit 9/11 was a great example of profiting from the misery of the 9/11 victims. **** that guy.
     
  6. rtsy

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  8. rtsy

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    You, Michael Moore, and the sate are not entitled to other people's things. Get over it.

    BUST THOSE UNIONS UP!!!

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    "The nation is not broke, my friends," opines guerilla filmmaker and amateur accountant Michael Moore. "Wisconsin is not broke. Saying that the country is broke is repeating a Big Lie."

    Relax, America, it turns out that all that talk about local, state, and federal government being broke is just total B.S. or, as The New York Times puts it, "obfuscating nonsense...a scare tactic employed for political ends."

    Moore is a bit skimpy on evidence, simply asserting that all we need to do to make things right is to shake down rich people who "have diverted...wealth into a deep well that sits on their well-guarded estates." The Times' case isn't much more compelling. "A country with a deficit is not necessarily any more 'broke' than a family with a mortgage or a college loan," says the paper of record. "And states have to balance their budgets."

    OK, but what should you call a family or a country that about 20 percent of GDP for each of the past 60 years while raising on less than 18 percent of GDP each year? And that is facing a massive balloon payment (let's call it entitlement spending on Medicare and Social Security) in the not-too-distant future? And has to keep borrowing money just to pay today's bills? And has no chance of increasing its take-home pay to cover its expenses?

    It's a pretty safe bet that most of us would call that family or country broke. Or something along those lines.

    Here are federal deficit projections from President Barack Obama's own proposed 2012 budget. He predicts that the red ink will continue to flow for as long he may be in office.
     
  9. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    um, i know one way you can increase your take home pay. how about no more tax breaks for the rich?
     
  10. mc mark

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    just as I thought

    nothing to add
     
  11. GladiatoRowdy

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    One that should raise taxes in order to raise revenue so that we can cover our spending and start paying back the debt.

    SS is solvent for the foreseeable future (two and a half decades, according to the CBO) and we can extend it solvency easily with two minor tweaks, means testing benefits and raising or eliminating the payroll tax cap.

    We do have a chance of "increasing [our] take-home pay," it is called raising taxes.

    Not unless you are an intellectually dishonest person doing the bidding of the ultra-rich.
     
  12. rtsy

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    Your answer to everything is to steal from someone else.
     
  13. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    you, somalia, go.
     
  14. rtsy

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    you, $1.2 trillion for defense plus billions more for war on drugs etc. etc. etc., pay for.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Somalia_(1991–2006)

    In the absence of a Somali state and its institutions, the private sector grew "impressively" according to the World Bank in 2003, particularly in the areas of trade, commerce, transport, remittance and infrastructure services and in the primary sectors, notably in livestock, agriculture and fisheries.[17] In 2007, the United Nations reported that the country's service industry is also thriving.[4] Economist Peter T. Leeson, in an event study of "the impact of anarchy on Somali development", found that "[t]he data suggest that while the state of this development remains low, on nearly all of 18 key indicators that allow pre- and post-stateless welfare comparisons, Somalis are better off under anarchy than they were under government." Powell et al. concur that in absolute terms, Somalia’s living standards have improved and compare favorably with many existing African states, but also report that living standards have often improved "relative to other African countries since the collapse of the Somali central government."[15]
     
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  16. thadeus

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    It's come to this: rtsy, like basso before him, is not worth responding to. He puts almost no effort into his posts (like basso, simply posts material from elsewhere then says something that's either incredibly vague or that's straight from the talking points).

    rtsy is not interested in debate or discussion.
     
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  17. Depressio

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    Good ol' class warfare and wasteful defense spending.

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  18. tallanvor

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    As opposed to the thought-provoking information you just posted. If his posts are meaningless to you then ignore him (insulting him is not ignoring him).

    Walker's response to Democrats asking him to come to the Wisconsin/Illinois border to discuss Wisconsin issues. This Miller fellow is absurd.

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  19. Ottomaton

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    The thadeus' post starts the process of organizing an ad hoc union of like minded individuals to collectively ignore rtsy, just so he can screw with the right wing trolls on multiple levels.
     
  20. mc mark

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    Care to see a poll (several actually) of the good people of WI and who they think is absurd?

    hint, it ain't Miller
     

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