[Picture Slideshow] Terrence Williams - Effort and Heart (or Lack Thereof)

I can't believe that people are surprised that our 12th man is a scrub.

Btw, love all the idiotic comments about it being "garbage time". Apparently every other player on this team didn't get the memo about it being ok to slack off during garbage time.

But hey, I'm sure Williams knows the ins and outs of NBA ball better than Courtney Lee. It's not like Lee started for an NBA finals team or anything.

 

Let's trade him to the Knicks, Hornets, or Suns.

 

this is terrible reasoning... garbage time is exactly the time he should be busting his tail off. it's a REAL GAME. if he can't get up to play in the limited minutes he gets then to hell with him. this league - just like life - is all about taking full advantage of the opportunities laid out in front of you. there is no better opportunity to prove yourself as a player then in an ACTUAL GAME.

when you have the reputation that twill does and are struggling to get off the bench, every opportunity to get on the court should be viewed as an audition.

 

Bingo.

If you can't bust your ass for 6 minutes with a 20 point lead, why should I trust you to bust your ass any other time?

 

Ummm, it was garbage time during a blowout win....

We are talking about the last man on the bench.

There is some serious overeaction going on here.

 

Wouldn't mind activating Carrol and de-activating Terrence. Its just not going to work out under Adelman's system. Maybe with a new coaching system next season he might find favor with the new coach, but its not going to happen under Adelman.

Just not a good fit and I wish Jermaine Taylor was 2 inches taller so he could have got a chance to play some at the 3 spot. Dissapointed that the Rockets had to let him go for Terrence, but I understand why it was done. Terrence can play the 3 spot and is a great athlete, just not a great NBA role player with a huge ego, and not good enough to be the star player.

Good for Jermaine though, seems like he's getting a shot to play in Sacramento.

 

Please no, the Vipers are playing great ball right now. We don't want to destroy team chemistry by adding TWill to the mix.

 

People need to stop referring to him as "T-Will". That kind of nickname is for stars -- not for players who are stars only in their mind.

Henceforth, he is Williams to me. I'll start using his first name when he actually decides to be part of the team.

 

I'm annoyed because I want to see him excel and be a key contributor on the team because of his talents. But if he doesn't take full advantage of every opportunity he gets -- even if its "garbage time" -- he's just shooting himself in the foot. He needs to grow the hell up.

 

It wouldn't be as big of an issue if:

1) We were a contending team

2) We weren't very much dependent on the success and development of our young players

3) Williams hadn't been whining publicly about his PT

4) He wasn't a repeat offender in this regard (NJ days)


Overreaction? Not really, seems about appropriate, given the circumstances.

 

Its common knowledge you don't go FULL OUT in garbage time out of respect for the other team.

Stop overreacting.

I swear to the god, the propensity for the board to always identify an enemy within the organization is so freaking annoying. Literally two weeks after Brooks is gone and a new red headed step child emerges.

 

Let's not forget that he never, ever, EVER puts his hands up when defending. In fact, he seems to act like he's too cool to do that. GTFO, bro.

 

Normally I'd agree with you, but nobody's overreacting here. I've been on TWill's side for the entire episode of his Rockets drama.. but I can't give him a free pass for the last game. That was absolutely pathetic. Unless you're going to find a coach that will play him regardless of his faults, Morey needs to ship him out.

We just lost a first rounder.

 

/headache

The fact that you would make such a broad and final evaluation after five minutes of garbage time is astounding.

Was the effort there when he played minutes in games that counted? - yes

 

This isn't high school, this is pro sports.

You don't go "full out" in the sense that you play full court press and run a constant fast break, but you are expected to play defense and participate in the offense that is being run.

 

What broad and final evaluation? I'm not saying that he will put the same amount of effort into a game that's close?

I'm saying that he could have given two sh!ts about being on the court the other night. That was pretty obvious to anyone watching. With Adelman's style of coaching/developing, he's not going to play TWill until Terrence shows he deserves some minutes. After last night's antics, Coach Adelman will not be playing TWill for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the inactive list soon.

I'll say it again: Unless you're going to find a coach that will play him regardless of his faults, Morey needs to ship him out.

We just lost a first rounder.

 

You still don't get it. Williams apparently shares your attitude, and it isn't going to get him anywhere. Maybe he practices the same way -- its just practice after all; its not a real game where it counts. Right?

Young players who are constantly whining about playing time between games should not be taking any plays off when they get court time. He's a fool for not understanding this.

 

Or maybe someone just pulls him aside and says:

"Yo Terrence, you need to go full out in the little time you do get"

And then we dont lose a first rounder?!

And regardless, even if he is completely worthless, someone else will always take a flier on talent, so to say "we just lost a first rounder" is incredibly obtuse.

No, I do get it.

Everyone on this board put the kid on the pedestool, saying "unleash Twill, he is a superstar in the making!". Obviously when you put such high expectations on someone the failure to deliver is exaserbated. But someone like me, who never had those expectations, isn't all that bothered by it.

Is it annoying and a little frustrating? Sure. Do I need a frame by frame of the 13th man on the bench in garbage time in order to make a final decision on an immature kid? Not really.

 

Im here to defend him but I totally know how he feels. The man just wants playing time. He just wants to play basketball. I don't understand why Morey just didn't trade him at the deadline and instead kept him just to bury him on the bench. If the Rockets had no use for him, why didn't they just trade him.

He is clearly frustrated because he felt that after the deadline, he was finally going to have a chance to play. But instead, he wasn't traded, the Rockets kept him and let him sit there and rot on the bench. Twill has lots of talents and he isn't going to show his talents by sitting on the bench.

I know he is wrong for not showing any heart when he's out there but he should get some playing time if the Rockets want to at least develop him. I still think Morey shuold have traded him instead of keeping him here just to let him become more frustrated sitting on the bench and that may effect the locker room and chemistry. Before the deadline, Twill felt he will have a chance because he thinks that by the trade deadline, he would be dealt to a different team where he would get his chance or someone else on the team will be traded therefore, he will get some minutes. But now after the deadline, he feels as if he's stuck in a position where he can't be traded, he can't play and have to sit on the bench and watch for the rest of the season.

 

Taking a flier on talent doesn't mean we're going to get another first round pick. No team will give up a 1st rounder for a guy who was discarded by two teams and has very obvious maturity issues. And its not like he's been that good when he's played. He has talent, but he isn't close to being a good player yet.