He may not be the next Mike, but he one hell of a player. I mean a lot of players can look bad when you compare them to the greatest player to ever play the game. Kobe has had a better career then Lebron, but theres no way you can say he a better player right now. Lebron hasnt had a lot of help, but he has it now so we'll have to wait and see how many rigns he can get.
I dont understand how stats can be empty. They are what they are, you can say that he isnt clutch, you can say his game is incomplete, but stats are freaking stats and they dont lie he impacts the game greatly. It doesnt make any sense to claim that his stats dont affect the game.
That depends on which western team we're talking about. Would he have been lucky enough to play for a team that spent one season tanking to get him, but still had a 50+ win supporting cast (like Duncan)? Would he have been drafted by a team with the most dominant player in the league on the roster (like Kobe)? Would he have been drafted by a team that would have followed up by drafting a young stud point guard (like Durant) instead of Luke Jackson?
You must not have gotten the memo that points are worth more if they come in the last 30 seconds than if they come in the firth 47 and a half minutes.
If you re-read the entire sentence, I was saying that Durant's team followed up his draft by picking up a stud point guard (Westbrook). In each case, the player whose name is in parenthesis was the player who benefited from being drafted into a great situation.
-Championships "Not one, not two, not three, not four, not five, not six, not seven." "We might even bring Pat down too!!" freaking choke artist. he made this bed to live in. what an :grin::grin::grin:
Can someone explain to me how Lebron was surrounded with scrubs while he was in Cleveland? Why do I see this excuse alot? Then how the hell did they make the playoffs all those years with the best regular season record the last two years and a trip to the Finals? Yeah, look at Cleveland this season. But remember, Cleveland lost more than just Lebron. As it is now, Miami will probably not win a ring this year. So what will the excuse be? How many more years of Lebron not winning a championship does it take before people stop making excuses for him?
Pleeeze, the only people they lost was Shaq - who barely played, and Delonte West, a role player. No team that was supposed to be "surrounded by talent" should go this far in the toilet after losing one superstar The Rockets lost both their superstars last year and still had a winning record Once again I ask, who would you trade a Paul Gasol for or Lamar Odom for any of the people LeBron played with??
You forgot Ilgaukas (spelling?), their starting center for like 10 years. The heat could possibly have a worse record than Cleveland did last season. If Lebron is so good, then shouldn't the Heat have the league's best record now? I see what you're doing by bringing up Gasol and Odom. But who Lebron has now are better than those two guys.
Do not question the Basketball God! People look at the Cavs teams and wonder how they would do without LeBron. I think they actually did an acceptable job of being his supporting cast. Everyone knew their role and executed, and in addition to Bron's otherworldly skills, they won all those games. But, we are talking about a Basketball God, after all. Any dissent is verboten to his sycophants.
The Cavs had a roster built for regular season success when Lebron was there. They had a superstar player and a bunch of guys who could play solid defense and hit open shots when there was no pressure on them. The main problem was that nobody else could create, and Lebron's second best player was a notorious choker who got destroyed last year by the guy who was supposed to be the Celtics fourth best player.
The players LeBron had last year in Cleveland consist of a few average players plus half a dozen scrubs. However, the players playing for Cleveland this year consist of a few scrubs plus half a dozen D-league players who don't belong to the league.
So the case for Lebron for mvp this year... He has less points, Assists, blocks, steals, lower fg, lower ft and more turnovers. He has a better supporting cast(with 2 stars not to mention), but he has a worse record. I get that he would have less points naturally, btu didn't everyone say if you surround him with anything better than the 'scrubs' in cleveland(who were not individually good players, but were perfect in complmenting lebron's skillset along with a solid defensive coach like mike brown-all underrated in his success) that this guarantees a championship and he can even easily get a triple double, but his assists among with steals,blocks all go down. Yet he is still supposed to be top 2 in the running for MVP with a team that lost 5 straight? Its Dwight or Rose, no contest, the media shouldn't be able to vote
How can you not have Dirk in there? Best player on a top team, team struggled massively when he went out... I think that's an MVP. Only thing holding him back is the circumstances around the last MVP, but history shouldn't be a factor.
