**The Official Shane Battier as a Member of the Memphis Grizzlies...Again Thread**

less chance now to steal grizz's playoff spot....

 

Jesus freaking Christ, Dallas, may you get swept in 4 if you face this team, you clowns.

 

shane just won the game for grizzlies, 11 boards, 5 offensive......

 

I liked how Kwame created this thread to clown on Shane.


Nice going, slick.

 

The sweet thing is he has to give Battier props now when he has a good game or his lack of objectivity will be even more apparent. The thread works both ways.

 

Shane Battier needs to watch Tony Allen and learn from him. Tony Allen does what a true role player does.

 

Thanks Houston!

 

A true role player plays a role?

 

Chase Budinger just read Kwame's posts in this thread.

 

Here's what happened in this game to cause the +/- of everyone to be what it is:

To start the game, Dallas swarmed Zbo (and Gasol) in the post-- the Grizzlies looked disjointed and Zbo could hardly get his hand on the ball in a scoring position. The Grizz got much better once they replaced bad 3-pt shooters with good ones (Mayo, Battier). Even if the "good shooter" were missing 3s, they created better spacing. Mayo and Battier both had highly positive +/- because their presence (instead of Sam Young and Tony Allen) made a difference in how well the post-offense guys could work. Zbo's +/- was weighed down during the initial struggles when the team didn't have the guys to space the floor for him, but recovered to essentially break even.

Battier hustled for a lot of rebounds and that showed in his box score, he also did plenty that didn't show on the box score-- deflections, tip the ball to teammate who got rebound, spacing the court, contesting shots (even Dirk's last made basket was well defended by Battier). There is a reason why Hollins has him in during crunch time.

 

I think you confuse stat production with playing well. Shane hasn't had a bad game yet in Memphis which is why he is already essentially the starting SF in minutes. When Rudy Gay gets back and he can go balls to the wall for 20 minutes a night, he will be even better. However, he will allow us to weather Rudy's injury without missing a beat and without him having to replace Rudy's scoring. In fact, his addition to the 2nd team is the #1 reason Mayo has started to pick up his play.

P.S. Ish is that ish...

 

Has he gotten any run yet? I felt sorry for him in the Battier press conference.. it was Battier + 1.

 

The Shane/Mayo combination did look good to me yesterday. Better than the starting combo of Young/Allen.

By the way, not a Battier question but related to the trade: Thabeet seems to have been much better as a rookie (wasn't great, but at least competent and productive as far as rookies go) than he has been as a 2nd year player. Not only did he get less minutes, his per-minute numbers are also much worse.

What in the world happened between the seasons?

 

This was always my favorite:

 

Not very informative, it shows that one guy likes to eat and the other one enjoy having a man on him.

I get it that Thabeet probably didn't work that hard, but to actually regress? It's not like he showed up fat or something.

 

Not very informative? What you just described is TMI.

 

I won't get into an argument with you but I am not a big Battier fan. Most people on here with good memories can tell you I thought he was overrated because his role was to important for his skill level. On our team now, he is a true role player. We don't need him to score or even take shots now.

 

At the end of last season, gasol was hurt or something like that and thabeet played consistent minutes. They were out of the playoffs and let him just play. This season, they have been in the race all season and gasol has layed his usual minutes, but then arthur came on and knocked thabeet out the rotation. He's a guy who needs to play as much as possible to learn what he can and can't do. Giving him 8-9 minutes doesn nothing for a guy like him. Hollins is old school like adelman and i can't ay i don't blame him with a chance to get into the playoffs.