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Nearly 4000 Muslims Attack Christian Homes in Egypt, Torch Church

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  1. trustme

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    Every mosque in the ISGH is supported by Hakeem Olajuwon, what are you trying to say about him? Choose your words wisely, oh racist one.
     
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    Washington Post:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/05/AR2011030501128.html

    Agence France Presse:

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/af...ocId=CNG.97f06e36a1a0cb62da2c4bda69870ba9.561

    Bloomberg:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...churches-are-burnt-by-muslims-group-says.html

    You should seriously work on your googling skills.

    Edit: Sorry, the last one is actually about something that happened in ETHIOPIA. Unfortunately, islamo-fascist hate manifests itself in so many countries.

    Ethiopian Evangelical Christian Churches Are Burnt by Muslims, Group Says

    Churches and homes used by evangelical Christians in southwestern Ethiopia were burned down by Muslims over the past two days, according to International Christian Concern.

    Federal police in the Horn of Africa nation intervened after three churches and two houses were torched following an alleged burning of the Koran in Asendabo, the Washington DC- based rights group said in a statement on its website. Two more churches were then burned, it said, citing local church leaders. Asendabo is about 280 kilometers (174 miles) southwest of Addis Ababa.

    Ethiopian Communications Minister Bereket Simon said that only two houses used for worship were burned in the incident.

    “No one has died,” he said by phone from Addis Ababa. “It’s a very minor, isolated incident.”

    Calls to the Ethiopian Islamic Affairs Supreme Council weren’t answered or didn’t connect when Bloomberg News sought comment today.

    Ethiopian Kale Heywot Church, an Addis Ababa-based evangelical organization, said today it would make a statement once it had met with the government and carried out its own investigation.

    Incidents of religious strife in Ethiopia are rare, although there have been sectarian clashes in the south-west in recent years. Ethiopia’s population includes 34 percent Muslims and 63 percent Christians, according to the CIA World Factbook.
     
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    I don't know, ask the Chronicle. I love Hakeem and want to believe (and do believe) that he had no bad intentions. As far as the people who represent the mosque goes, I don't know...

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/topstory/3031726.html

    Mosque set up by Olajuwon reportedly gave money to terror groups

    WASHINGTON - A mosque established and funded by basketball star Hakeem Olajuwon gave more than $80,000 to charities the government later determined to be fronts for the terror groups al-Qaida and Hamas, according to financial records obtained by The Associated Press.
    Olajuwon told the AP he had not known of any links to terrorism when the donations were made, prior to the government's crackdown on the groups, and would not have given the money if he had known.
    "There is no way you can go back in time," Olajuwon said in a telephone interview from Jordan, where he is studying Arabic. "After the fact, now they have the list of organizations that are banned by the government."
    A Treasury Department spokeswoman, Molly Millerwise, declined to discuss Olajuwon's contributions but said, "In many cases donors are being unwittingly misled by the charities."
    Federal law enforcement officials said they were not investigating Olajuwon, a 7-foot center born in Nigeria who played 17 seasons for the Houston Rockets of the National Basketball Association before retiring in 2002.
    Olajuwon, who became a U.S. citizen in 1993, was known as "The Dream" and won the NBA's Most Valuable Player award in 1994, when he led the Rockets to the first of back-to-back championships.
    The Olajuwon-founded Islamic Da'Wah Center gave more than $60,000 in 2000 and $20,000 in 2002 to the Islamic African Relief Agency, the center's tax records show.
    The government shut down the relief agency in October, saying it gave money and other support to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida.
    But the agency and its possible ties to terrorism had been in news stories years earlier, before Olajuwon's contributions:
    --The U.S. Agency for International Development cut off two government grants to the Islamic African Relief Agency in 1999, saying funding the group "would not be in the national interest of the United States."
    --A former fund-raiser for the relief agency, Ziyad Khaleel, was named in a federal trial in 2001 as the man who bought a satellite telephone that bin Laden used to plan the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
    --Numerous news organizations reported shortly after the 2001 terrorist attacks that the relief agency was among more than two dozen Islamic charities under scrutiny for possible terrorist ties.
    Olajuwon also participated in a 1999 celebrity bowling tournament for the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, which the U.S. government shut down in 2001, accusing it of sending money to Hamas. The Islamic Da'Wah Center gave more than $2,000 to the Texas-based Holy Land Foundation in 2000, according to its tax returns.
    At the time, Olajuwon was vice president of the mosque -- which was named after him -- and provided more than three-quarters of its money. Olajuwon heads the separate foundation that now controls the Islamic Da'Wah Center.
    All the donations came before the government designated the Holy Land Foundation and the Islamic African Relief Agency as terrorist fronts. Vipul Worah, an accountant for Olajuwon's charities, said U.S. authorities have never asked about the contributions.
    Olajuwon, who is married with four daughters, became a Muslim during his professional career and was known for playing in key games while observing dawn-to-dusk fasting during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.
    Tax returns for Olajuwon's Islamic Da'Wah Center show it gave the Islamic African Relief Agency $61,250 in 2000 and $20,000 in 2002.
    Those donations accounted for 2.2 percent of the $2.8 million the Islamic African Relief Agency received during 2000 and 1.4 percent of the $1.4 million it raised in 2002, records show.
    Olajuwon said the donations came after fund-raisers from the Islamic African Relief Agency visited Houston. He said the group told him donations would help the needy in Africa.
    "They came and approached us and everything was legitimate. I had no knowledge of their activity," Olajuwon said.
    The Treasury Department alleged in October that several top officials of the group's branches overseas are al-Qaida members or associates and the group gave bin Laden hundreds of thousands of dollars in 1999.
    The federal government says the Sudan-based Islamic African Relief Agency's U.S. branch is IARA-USA, based in Columbia, Mo. That group has challenged the terrorist designation in court, saying it is separate from the Sudanese group.
    Shereef Akeel, a lawyer for IARA-USA, acknowledged the U.S. group and the Sudanese group "may be in a partnership together" and some people with links to IARA-USA have terrorist associations.
    "Just because someone traveled in the same circles, just because one employee was at the same conference as someone who supported terrorism, doesn't mean the organization sponsors or condones acts of terrorism," Akeel said.
    The Holy Land Foundation was shut down in December 2001. Federal authorities say it was the main U.S. fund-raiser for Hamas and sent $12.4 million to the Palestinian terrorist group from 1995 to 2001. Hamas has claimed responsibility for dozens of suicide bombings in Israel that have killed scores of people, including Americans.
    The Holy Land Foundation and several leaders are awaiting trial on criminal charges of supporting terrorism -- charges they deny. U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler rejected the group's 2002 lawsuit challenging its terrorist designation, ruling federal officials had "ample evidence" of financial support for Hamas.
    Attorney General John Ashcroft said in July that an indictment against several officers was "neither a reflection on the well-meaning people who may have donated funds to the foundation, nor is it a reflection on the Muslim faith and its adherents."
    In 2000, the year after Olajuwon participated in the Dallas bowling tournament for the Holy Land Foundation, the Islamic Da'Wah Center gave the group $2,430, tax records show. That money was a tiny fraction of the $13 million the foundation raised that year.
    Olajuwon said the bowling tournament was one of many charitable events he has attended.
    "I get all sorts of requests from charitable organizations," Olajuwon said. "It was a bunch of kids and I gave them autographs."
     
  4. ChrisBosh

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    Thanks for looking those up. BTW the story in these links paint a very different scenario than your initial article, funny how that happens when you use sources which are shady. It's a horrible story nevertheless.
     
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    The stories posted in the links above are regarding the precursor event to the story posted in the OP.
     
  6. ChrisBosh

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    LOL, how do you figure this?
     
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    What do you consider different? 2 dead, churches burned in all stories. The one in the OP has more detail, but I don't see any contradictions?
     
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    The links above point out that nobody was hurt in the church, your OP link says otherwise. One seems to be using anecdotal evidence as sources, while the other from authority figures. The number 4000 itself seems like it was pulled out of someone's a$$.
     
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    See below.

     
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    It was not a precursor, they just left out the details probably because they could not be verified. That's called good journalism.
     
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    I have never heard of that news agency, so I take Azadre's word for it that they are not great, but how do you know that the story is not correct? :confused:

    Either way, even without the additional detail, the story speaks for itself.
     
  12. krnxsnoopy

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    What backward ass logic!!!!
     
  13. trustme

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    I know, right? I don't know how people justify these so called honor killings.
     
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    One thing we agree on. It's crazier than crazy. Killing their own children/siblings to "restore honor", wtf :confused:.
     

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