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Nearly 4000 Muslims Attack Christian Homes in Egypt, Torch Church

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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    (AINA) -- A mob of nearly four thousand Muslims has attacked Coptic homes this evening in the village of Soul, Atfif in Helwan Governorate, 30 kilometers from Cairo, and torched the Church of St. Mina and St. George. There are conflicting reports about the whereabouts of the Church pastor Father Yosha and three deacons who were at church; some say they died in the fire and some say they are being held captive by the Muslims inside the church.

    Witnesses report the mob prevented the fire brigade from entering the village. The army, which has been stationed for the last two days in the village of Bromil, 7 kilometers from Soul, initially refused to go into Soul, according to the officer in charge. When the army finally sent three tanks to the village, Muslim elders sent them away, saying that everything was "in order now."

    A curfew has been imposed on the 12,000 Christians in the village.

    This incident was triggered by a relationship between 40-year-old Copt Ashraf Iskander and a Muslim woman. Yesterday a "reconciliation" meeting was arranged between the relevant Coptic and Muslim families and together with the Muslim elders it was decided that Ashraf Iskander would have to leave the village because Muslims torched his house.

    The father of the Muslim woman was killed by his cousin because he did not kill his daughter to preserve the family's honor, which led the woman's brother to avenge the death of his father by killing the cousin. The village Muslims blamed the Christians.

    The Muslim mob attacked the church, exploding 5-6 gas cylinders inside the church, pulled down the cross and the domes and burnt everything inside. Activist Ramy Kamel of Katibatibia Coptic advocacy called US-based Coptic Hope Sat TV and sent an SOS on behalf of the Copts in Soul village, as they are presently being attacked by the mob. He also said that no one is able to contact the priest and the deacons inside the burning church and there is no answer from their mobile phones.

    Coptic activist Wagih Yacoub reported the mob has broken into Coptic homes and has called on Copts to leave the village. "Terrorized Copts have fled and some hid in homes of Muslim neighbors," he added.

    Witnesses said the mob chanted "Allahu Akbar" and vowed to conduct their morning prayers on the church plot after razing it.

    http://www.aina.org/news/20110304222016.htm

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    According to Mathloom and geeimsobored, we have to read these news with a grain of salt. The people who screamed Allahu Akbar might be Hindus or Christians. :rolleyes:
     
  2. bigtexxx

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    disgusting, again.

    at what point do you have to ask the tough questions, folks.....

    It will be hard to blame this one on "foreigners" like the Church bombing in Alexandria
     
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    The less I hear from the moderate muslims the more distance I place myself from Islam.
     
  5. trustme

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    Yes, Muslims did this. They did something that goes against Islam. They should definitely be held accountable for their actions. All 4,000 of them.
     
  6. Rockets Pride

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    RELIGION OF PEACE STRIKES AGAIN!
     
  7. bigtexxx

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    so in other words, "its not my problem"

    moderate Muslim apathy is part of the problem, actually
     
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    What do you propose he does? Personally go over there and arrest them? What are you personally doing about it? These actions are disgusting and should be condemned. Egypt's current authorities (the Army) needs to take steps to address and control sectarian violence by Muslims against the minority Copts and the protection of minority rights must be included in the new democratic government that they are working on.
     
  10. AroundTheWorld

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    Do you agree with Mathloom's line of reasoning in the Kosovan Muslim thread that religion should not even be "brought into the picture" when looking at the crime? I would think that it would be pretty hard even for Mathloom to argue that here...
     
  11. Al Calavicci

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    Why do you post stuff like this all the time? To "inform" people? So what?

    It's pretty obvious you think Islam is an inherently violent religion and radical extremists are only following what you think the Koran says. So let's assume that's true. What exactly do you think should be done about it? If the religion itself is the problem, not a select few fringe crazies out of a billion, what do you do about the billion? Aren't they just some ticking timebomb of evil Islam?

    What do you want people to do? Ask all the Muslims in the world to give up their religion nicely? Holy War? Genocide? What do you think the solution is here?
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    Because stuff like this happens all the time.

    Just because you tacitly agree or don't care (how else should one interpret a "so what?" statement in this context?) doesn't mean everyone else has to.

    Why don't you answer some of those questions you are asking?
     
  13. Al Calavicci

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    I don't have a problem with Muslims in general and consider the actions of extremists to be on the fringe and not representative of the Islamic population at large.

    Now, you.
     
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    Islam doesn't allow the attacking of Christians and the burning of Churches. If you trying to tie these actions to Islam, this thread is a complete fail.
     
  15. Al Calavicci

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    P.S. I would also like to congratulate you on your very basso-esque ability to not answer a DIRECT QUESTION posed to you.
     
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    Do you not realize that not I am tying these actions to Islam? The people who do these actions are doing them because of their religion (or what they believe is justified by their religion). Religion is the motive here, how can you say that I am tying this to Islam?
     
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    Then explain why the Islamic fringe is so much more violent than any other fringe, and why in so many countries where Islam is the dominant religion intolerance toward other religions is so much more pronounced than if the opposite is the case.
     
  18. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    This is why some people think Muslims are bad people. The sad thing is there are a lot of nice Muslims but they get over looked because of the things the bad Muslims does.
     
  19. Al Calavicci

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    I don't have to explain anything to you. I don't start 20 threads a week on the subject. I didn't start this thread. I'm not trying to defend a position. I simply asked you a question relevant to the topic of this thread, which you cowardly ignored by answering a question with a question. And even after I answered that question, you again ignored it.

    I'm starting to think your "solution" to this "Islam problem" is to post anti-Muslim threads on the internet all day. Serious solutions for a serious problem, I see.
     
  20. sammy

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    quite frankly, it's not my problem or the majority of Muslim people, who are sane people. we know what Islam allows and does not. if you need to educate yourself, google it. yes you can pick out things like stoning non-believers but the Bible has similar text.

    you think your time is more valuable than mine? excuse me for not giving a crap about what other lunatics are doing. these cowards (idiot "Muslims") can't be helped.
     
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