They don't. They hate getting f***ed out of a decent, fair wage by greedy f***s who only care about their own bank accounts.
Sure, ask Wisconsin taxpayers if their taxes are way too low and spew f bombs at them for not wanting to give more to six figure total compensation earning teachers . . . lol .. .
Yes,. . . politicians ARE weak as demonstrated by those on the run and in hiding, politicians are weak as demonstrated by a stupid woman politician putting partisan tactics ahead of paternal duties... Unions have influence on politicians, and will in the future no doubt...To prevent the stupidity and unbalance from occuring again is crucial. You can't have six figure total compensation public school teachers while the private sector taxpayers get nothing plus higher taxes...The state government is out of money to support stupidity done in the 1980's and the options to sustain the continued stupidity in the wake of a devastating economy is higher taxes to generate revenue to pay, or to take reasonable and corrective action... The unions get salaries, health benefits, and pensions far in excess of what the average taxpayer in the private sector earns. In exchange, the unions contribute huge amounts of money to the elected officials who agreed to these outrageous and fiscally bankrupting perks. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/03/01/wisconsin-public-unions-time-let-voters-decide/ Thankfully the people elected a politician TO take corrective action...and it is responsible to do so. Salary should be competitive and commensurate...That won't change.. Collective bargaining will still be in place for salary...so salary won't be affected...What got out of hand was pension and retirement benefits at complete FREE when the eventuality is unsustainable...
Wisconsin teachers, on average, have a compensation package of about $76,000. Why do you have to lie to make a point?
Their salary IS "competitive and commensurate." In fact, as posted before, teachers total compensation is lower than employees of provate businesses with similar education and training. Yet another lie that you continue to repeat is that the teachers' pension was "free," when that is simply not true. Again, why do you have to lie to make a point?
Salary standing alone is not so much the issue, it is curtailing examples in Milwaukee which comprises nearly 18% of the population of the state, whereby total compensation for public school teachers equates to six figures when you consider salary, pension part 1, and pension part 2 ...Nearly a fifth os teachers in the state obtain a total compensation unbalanced to taxpayer capability to support...That is the problem... When you contribute nothing to your retirement benfits that's what it is...FREE...Most private sector employees contribute to their own retirements...FREE is unsustainable to your chagrin at taxpayer expense.
I didn't lie at all. The WI governor is continuing to push for the end of collective bargaining. However, you did lie about the compensation package (saying it was "six figures"). I made my point honestly, you lied. All you have to do to avoid being called a liar is to use accurate information rather than the idiocy you are parroting.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703408604576164290717724956.html?mod=googlenews_wsj here read this liar... I tend to believe the manager of financial planning for Milwaukee public schools. . . The average Milwaukee public-school teacher salary is $56,500, but with benefits the total package is $100,005, according to the manager of financial planning for Milwaukee public schools
The teachers get salaries, health benefits, and pensions that are actually lower than the average person with the same level of education and experience. Comparing apples to oranges is dishonest.
Cherry picked statistic for Milwaukee. Compare the state and the average compensation package is $76,000, which is lower than the average private sector employee with similar education and experience. Again, comparing apples to oranges is dishonest.
Using inaccurate information makes you wrong, not a liar. You are only a liar if you know the information is wrong when you use it.
The inaccuracies have been posted several times in this very thread. That makes him either a liar or a person who doesn't accept facts and evidence. I'm not really sure which he is and it doesn't matter, the two are equally bad.
Mmm,..Let's see GladiatoRowdy states my 6 figure total compensation example is wrong and a lie BUT...I provide evidence that the manager of financial planning for Milwaukee public schools agrees with that assertion... Keep in mind, about a fifth of public school teachers from the state serve there... Sounds like GladiatoRowdy is a person who doesn't accept facts and evidence AND is a blatant and foolish LIAR...
The place where I called you out was where you said that Wisconsin teachers have a six figure compensation package. That was a lie. Wow, 20% of the teachers in WI are in Milwaukee? That leaves a paltry 80% who make far less than the ones in that city. You just keep piling up the fail.
My question is why did public unions limit the six figure total compensation of public school teachers to just Milwaukee, a city with the population of about 18% of the state...? What about the rest of the state?...Why didn't the public unions enable those in the rest of the state to receive the six figure total compensation ? .. .
No, you called me out,...or tried to lol, at refuting the six figure total compensation number as proven by the manager of financial planning for Milwaukee public schools ... Now if I said, the whole state of Wisconsin, you'd have a semi-point...but I never refered to the whole state as having six figures total compensation, and if you could possibly comprehend anything, you would see that again is a fact to your chagrin...
Again,..I ask the question, why does the public teacher unions play favorites and enable about 18% of the states teachers to receive six figure total compensation but not the others?. . .
The unions negotiated a compensation package. I haven't seen the details, but I would assume that the contract includes provisions for seniority, education, and cost of living differentials. Without the data, I can't make any determinations as to the factors that contribute to the higher compensation numbers, but I will throw out a few possibilities... If cost of living is a factor in the contract, Milwaukee educators would get paid more because, in general, the cost of living is higher in a city than in the Styx. Educators in Milwaukee might, on average, have more education and/or experience. This would seem to make sense as there is probably more competition for jobs in Milwaukee than in Green Bay. The official who made the estimate might be a Republican who is overstating the figure. I can't rule this one out as it seems like Republicans are extremely prone to hyperbolic overstatements of "fact" when they are trying to make a point. Personally, I think the most likely explanation is the second. Educators in Milwaukee probably have more education and experience than the average WI educator.
