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Do the rockets have the worst best player in the Wc

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Air Langhi, Feb 27, 2011.

  1. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    If a gm could pick evans, KM, or cousins I think cousins goes first. If the kings offered cousins for martin I think most people would do it.
     
  2. bpbkforlife

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    I'll take Kobe with 5 years left!
     
  3. topfive

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    Why is this even a surprise? Everyone on this board knows we have no superstar -- we've been talking about it all season long.

    We also have a strong bench. Compare our 6-10 guys to the other benches in the WC and we'll be way up there. No surprise there, either.
     
  4. BleedRocketsRed

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    Is this some type of joke?
     
  5. RX2012

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    i absolutely agree. Monta should be picked 5th or 6th
     
  6. meh

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    Ellis vs Martin
    Scoring: Edge Martin
    Shooting: Edge Martin when you take into account 3 point shooting
    Free throws: Edge Martin in attempts, made, and percentage
    Assists: Edge Ellis
    Rebounds: Wash
    Turnovers: Edge Martin as in he has less
    Steals: Edge Ellis

    Team offense: Edge Martin Houston ranks #5 and GS ranks #13
    Team defense: Edge Martin Houston ranks #25 and GS ranks #28

    Oh, and Ellis is 25 and Martin's 27. Neither's really going to take a leap forward.

    If Ellis is 5 or 6, while Martin's dead last, then you might as well say that 5-14 are basically the same.
     
  7. BleedRocketsRed

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    Yeah I guess those 2 could really go either way. Monta is a better 4th quarter player tho. I'd call defense a wash, neither of them play any.
     
  8. roslolian

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    Ok just wanted to point out that while Gay may be Memphis' highest paid player, he's not the best player on the Grizzlies. He's behind both Gasol and Randolph and IMHO behind Mayo as well.

    With that said, a wise GM would pick Martin over Millsap, Monta, Nene, Gay, Nash (more to do with age), Cousins and Duncan (also over age). That puts him at number 8, more or less mediocre/average...which is exactly where the Rockets are right now.
     
  9. dakeem1

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    Millsap the best UTA player? PALEASE! Jefferson was absolutely elite just 2 seasons ago. Yes he had an awful year last year, but he has been fully healthy, pretty much averaging 20pt 9 rebs.

    Also, he seems to have been the one to step up since Deron has left, however it is jsut early days.
    UTA's 2nd bestp layer will be between Millsap and Harris now.
     
  10. thetatomatis

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    Martin is moving up this list with the kind of year he is having though.
     
  11. PolarBear

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    Charlie Palillo made the point last week that the Clippers starters are better than the Rocket starters at every position. Depressing, but a strong argument can be made that it's true:

    PG: Mo Williams vs. Kevin Lowry
    SG: Eric Gordan vs. Kevin Martin
    SF: Ryan Gomes/Al Farooq-Aminu vs. Chase Buddinger
    PF: Blake Griffin vs. Luis Scola
    C: Andre Jordan/Chris Kaman vs. Chuck Hayes/Brad Miller/Hasheem Thabeet

    Our 7-12 are stronger than the majority of teams, but are 1-5 are quite weak compared to most of the rest of the league. At least 3 of them wouldn't start for almost any other club.
     
  12. Kojirou

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    Cousins would be picked first because he has the most potential. It doesn't mean he's currently the best player, as he's not currently better than Martin. There's a significant chance he will be, but it's a chance.
     
  13. Carl Herrera

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    Not true. The starters have done fine this year while the bench has definitely been weak, especially Brooks and Hill.

    Disagree with me? Here's a tweet from Daryl Morey after recent game vs. the Nuggets in which the bench played well:

    Seems we have more of a 6-12 problem than a 1-5 problem. There are issues you'd like to fix with the starting 5 (having a big center would be nice), but the starters have been very good despite the lack of a "superstar star" among them.

    And Charlie P is wrong. The Clips don't have a better starting 5 than the Rockets. If they were, they'd have won some more games, and their starting 5 would have put up better numbers in these wins that they don't have.
     
  14. PolarBear

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    [And Charlie P is wrong. The Clips don't have a better starting 5 than the Rockets. If they were, they'd have won some more games, and their starting 5 would have put up better numbers in these wins that they don't have.[/QUOTE]

    You're kidding right? I'd trade our 5 starters for there's every day, and twice on Sunday - and would even let them pick which 3 and which 5 we received:

    Ours: Hayes, Scola, Buddinger, Martin & Lowry

    over

    Theirs: Jordan (or Kaman), Griffin, Gomes (or Aminu), Gordan & Mo Williams?
     
  15. Carl Herrera

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    You're kidding right? I'd trade our 5 starters for there's every day, and twice on Sunday - and would even let them pick which 3 and which 5 we received:

    Ours: Hayes, Scola, Buddinger, Martin & Lowry

    over

    Theirs: Jordan (or Kaman), Griffin, Gomes (or Aminu), Gordan & Mo Williams?[/QUOTE]

    I'd take the Griffin, Gordan and maybe Jordan because of their youth/upside, but as far as current performance goes, the Clips don't have a better record for a reason. The Rockets starting 5 have played better.

    Do you take the Clips guys for the future? Sure. What if we are strictly talking about which 5 you would take to win one game tomorrow against the other 5?
     
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    I cant even tell you who all the starters are in the Clippers lineup. So thats an automatic nuh ugh.
     
  17. VBG

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    I'd take the Griffin, Gordan and maybe Jordan because of their youth/upside, but as far as current performance goes, the Clips don't have a better record for a reason. The Rockets starting 5 have played better.

    Do you take the Clips guys for the future? Sure. What if we are strictly talking about which 5 you would take to win one game tomorrow against the other 5?[/QUOTE]

    The only reason to do that is because Griffin is a franchise changer. Otherwise, nah, I like the Rockets starting 5 better. Eric Gordan - Kevin Martin is a wash. Lowry > Mo Williams. Budinger >= Gomes/Aminu. Chuck Hayes > Jordan
     
  18. Kojirou

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    I'd take the Griffin, Gordan and maybe Jordan because of their youth/upside, but as far as current performance goes, the Clips don't have a better record for a reason. The Rockets starting 5 have played better.

    Do you take the Clips guys for the future? Sure. What if we are strictly talking about which 5 you would take to win one game tomorrow against the other 5?[/QUOTE]

    I think the fact that Adelman is 2394839 times better than Del Negro would also be a factor to some degree. But yeah, Clippers starting lineup has more upside, but whether they're better is uncertain. Otherwise, they would have beaten us, but they haven't.
     
  19. roslolian

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    You're kidding right? I'd trade our 5 starters for there's every day, and twice on Sunday - and would even let them pick which 3 and which 5 we received:

    Ours: Hayes, Scola, Buddinger, Martin & Lowry

    over

    Theirs: Jordan (or Kaman), Griffin, Gomes (or Aminu), Gordan & Mo Williams?[/QUOTE]

    Lowry is 3x better than Mo Williams. Of course You'd pick the Clips over the Rox, they have more potential. But if we're talking about just production, Scola, Martin and Lowry alone are probably worth the entire Clips roster. If the Clips were so good they would have won more games than they have currently.
     
  20. thetatomatis

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    21-39. Nuff said.
     

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