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How will the NFL CBA negotiations impact the 2011 season?

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by emjohn, Feb 15, 2011.

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What will get for a 2011 NFL season?

  1. No worries: full preseason and regular season

    8 vote(s)
    16.3%

  2. Preseason shortened/lost, but full regular season

    25 vote(s)
    51.0%

  3. 14 game season: Divisional plus scheduled rotation AFC and NFC divisions

    4 vote(s)
    8.2%

  4. 10 game season: Divisional games plus scheduled intraconference division

    4 vote(s)
    8.2%

  5. Minimal season: 6 divisional games followed by playoffs

    2 vote(s)
    4.1%

  6. 2011 will not happen at all

    6 vote(s)
    12.2%
  1. emjohn

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    Looking ugly right now....
     
    #1 emjohn, Feb 15, 2011
  2. Major

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    Neither side has any reason to negotiate or compromise right now. I don't think anything that happens between now and March 3rd has any relevance.

    Once you get to that point, people have something to lose. Early on, it will be the players - who can't get medical care, rehab, etc through their teams. Then it shifts to the owners, who potentially lose games. Those are the points where it becomes more interesting to see whether each side moves off their position.

    Right now, though, is just time being wasted. Nothing serious is going to get done until we get close to real deadlines.
     
    #2 Major, Feb 15, 2011
  3. DieHard Rocket

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    I think we'll see it cut into training camp and possibly a preseason game or two, but at that point the owners will be missing out on preseason home game revenue and the players will feel the pressure of missing out on game checks if it carries over into the regular season, so both sides will feel the pressure to get a deal done.
     
    #3 DieHard Rocket, Feb 15, 2011
  4. DonnyMost

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    Put me in the "nothing gets done until people start losing money" camp.
     
    #4 DonnyMost, Feb 15, 2011
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    Yep, as always, the only thing either side understands is lost wages, and until that happens, there's no incentive to get anything done. The bridge they are trying to build is a long one, and there's no way they get it done when neither side has intentions of laying down the first brick.
     
    #5 Fyreball, Feb 15, 2011
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    training camp, wont be in June-July, and they would play one or two preseason games, with 16 games in regular season.
     
    #6 david_rocket, Feb 15, 2011
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    Dave Duerson's suicide is going to have a serious impact on the future of football, and the CBA.
     
    #7 DonnyMost, Feb 21, 2011
  8. Dairy Ashford

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    2011 won't happen at all. NFL owners are like MLB players: for all their egos and unpleasantness, they stick together. They've probably already calculated their potential losses and factored it into their next TV contract negotations.
     
    #8 Dairy Ashford, Feb 22, 2011
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    I wonder what the CBA would look like if NFL players were smarter with their money (and if their union had better leadership) and could actually survive an extended work stoppage. Same goes for the NBA. Would there be a cap?
     
    #9 dharocks, Feb 23, 2011
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    1 week of camp and 1 pre-season game

    Take the under in every week 1 matchup
     
    #10 Dubious, Feb 26, 2011
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    I wonder about that. Major part in all of this is concerning revenue sharing. Big market owners don't want to keep funding the small-market teams, while the small-market owners still want to make a profit.
     
    #11 br0ken_shad0w, Mar 3, 2011
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    NFL may be able to weather 2-year lockout
    By Chris Isidore, senior writer February 28, 2011: 5:00 PM ET

    NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- National Football League owners will continue to generate much of their revenue in 2011, even if next season's games are cancelled due to a labor dispute, according to a note Monday by rating agency Standard & Poor's.

    http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/28/news/companies/nfl_lockout_debt_ratings/index.htm
     
    #12 rpr52121, Mar 5, 2011
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    thank you for sharing.
     
    #13 toygreen88, Mar 8, 2011
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    8 minutes for the owners to respond to the Ultimatum the NFL PA just sent out.
     
    #14 ItsMyFault, Mar 11, 2011
  15. emjohn

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    While it mentions it in passing, I don't think that article gives enough weight to the facts that the players won a HUGE win in court over the television money:
    http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20110302/FREE/110309958
    ..and that several owners (including McNair) are on the hook for major mortgage payments on the their stadiums.

    The owners may have really shot themselves in the foot intentionally deferring payments to this year in anticipation of a lockout (giving them a war chest and cutting the players short the last two years). It's major ammunition in the anti-trust lawsuit as well.

    As I see it, the owners underestimated the legal prowess of the union and are getting nailed to the wall. I just wonder how much stalling will happen out of sheer pride - the owners aren't going to take well to being clowned by dumb jocks.
     
    #15 emjohn, Mar 12, 2011
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