what does the 8 seed do? Make houston fans think the next year will be there year? And sorry on the Blake Griffin thing. I forgot. Still John Wall for example will be better than anybody on this Rockets team in 3 seasons, way better. Maybe he already is. stay in the 8-12 range, and we will continue to be there. cool
We did make the right moves to get Tmac and Yao... The media won't give us the damn time of day. Houston was a team that got screwed to injuries and bad luck... So true. I'm perfectly fine with doing what we did to get a tmac/yao. let's do that again. What pick did we have when we drafted Yao?
I'd rather make the 8th seed this season than the alternative which is a late lotto pick. It's too late to tank now.
We need a 4th qtr finisher. We just don't have one, I would be happy with Granger is Morey pulled that. I think the Melo dream might be over. Wish AB hadn't of screwed us, his trade value is steady on the decline.
Never mind that a #15 pick, #18 pick, an old ass center, a 2nd, and a bust picked at...wait for it...#13 (that was traded once, btw) got Boston a superstar power forward. Keep wishing that ONLY top 3 picks turn into stars/get you stars...a good front office that scouted right, and a coaching staff making your young players worth a ****ing damn gets you stars in trades.
The number 8 seed gets us in the 1st round. Which, in turn, gives us a chance to get to the 2nd round... and so on. I'm well aware that there are no 8th seeded team to win it all. It's almost impossible. But, I was also aware that nobody expected a 22-win streak in the first wins... more so when Yao went down in the middle of that streak. If we get to the 8th seed, we'll be facing the mighty Spurs, and we'll probably get our a$$ kicked. BUT, if somehow beat the Spurs (I'm not expecting us to), this will be one of the most memorable seasons of all time. Even if we lose in the 2nd round. Almost as memorable as the 22-game winning streak. We lost in the first round in that season, but that is one heck of a ride. I agree that nobody in the Rockets team is better than John Wall for the last 3 seasons. But the Wizards are still 15-38.
Let's get a top draft and have him and two other buddies "join forces". And yeah, they WILL NOT all come here to play.
What makes me sick is people actually believing that tanking and sucking for a year or two would necessarily get us back on track to a championship. There's way more risk in that strategy, more wildcards, more "potential franchise players" turning out to be less than what people expected, than people admit. Most likely with that approach, you end up extending the championship drought even longer. People are afraid to tank because they see what could happen, and they see better, smarter ways to build a contender.
with current approach, Rockets are not only far far away from the championship, but far away from even being relevant to winning or playoffs. The perpetual mediocre is nothing risky but it is for sure 100% irrelevant year after year.
You nailed it. If it's a guarantee that we can be a championship caliber in the next years, then yeah! Go ahead and tank. But the problem is, as you've said, there's more risk. I think that is what some mediocre teams did in the past, and now they're the laughing-stock of the league and late night shows. :grin:
You don't trade away super star talent for 2nd tier talent, and that's what the Rockets did. You nearly always better off holding on and hoping you star gets healthy and returns to form with you rather than some other team. That's why we have to hold onto Yao next year. You can't trade him away or not re-sign him. it's not that he will play again or ever be a force, it's that you really don't have any better roll of the dice. The Rockets need to tank. Not because we'll get a superstar or anything, but it maximizes what we will get. We need to tank and get a pick to at least have a spin at the wheel of fortune. And we need to unload guys like Brooks. You can't have Brooks and Kevin Martin on the same team. Just foolishness. We need a real small forward who can rebound and run. One that will balance the lack of height at the PF position. Or we need to get a tall PF. And we'd need to have a healthy Yao. If we have all that, we can have a nice team to watch next year and maybe make it to the 2nd round again. If we had kept T-mac we had a shot at getting to the conference finals even. Now...there's nothing we can do to be really competitive next year. Nothing. We have to play the long haul. Morey has to realize that and just accept it.
What's laughable about the tanking contigency on this board is this presumption that its easy to get back to where we are now by simply giving up ground and hoping for the best. All of you are frustrated after a year and half of crappy ball but you're advocating for an even longer/riskier path back to championship contention. This is the NBA, and rebuilding can be a decade long preocess if things don't go as planned (most of the time they don't). We're in a big market and the Rockets, as a franchise are, one of the few that is in good financial standing. We have the luxury of playing the waiting game and making the right moves to plug holes with proven players.
big market? because of yao ming. That's it. You and Les be rich and suck. I actually would like to win.
Well from the way I see it the location of the team does play a part to the players' decision... Lakers and Celtics both got a long history of NBA championships. Magic is a upcoming team ever since they gotten Howard. Miami, well the King call it southbeach, that says it all... Lastly Chicago, the team where one of NBA greatests won his championship rings. that's why when it comes to FA, usually teams like these attract the superstars...
While I agree with the things you said about Rockets being a poor team and they knew it, I would have to disagree with your conclusion. There is ample evidence that the Rockets did 'TANK' those seasons toward the end. In fact, that is why we have the lottery today. It was so blatant that everyone recognized it for what it was and decided to change the draft so a team could not be guaranteed the #1 pick just by losing all the games they could manage. Look it up.