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Only 2 ways the Rockets will return to greatness

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets Pride, Feb 13, 2011.

  1. Rockets Pride

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    1) You make a big trade. The T-mac trade was the right move at the time, it just didn't work out. Injuries... lack of heart.

    2) You draft a Super Star. Yao Ming. Great choice, he was the most dominant center in the NBA when he was 100& healthy.

    We will not sign a Super Star free agent. The End on that.


    The average Houston fan is afraid to tank. They would rather be an 8 seed every year... this make me sick. Please commit to sucking for a couple seasons if needed. This aint baseball. A couple right draft picks and a trade, a team can be in a the finals within 3-4 seasons... but nobody wants to do that... they would rather be an 8 seed.

    The Spurs did it with Duncan.... tanked.. .4 rings later.

    Just look at the Clippers. Blake Griffin. A future star..... Sure they have not started to win a lot of games yet. But imagine if we tanked last year.. and somehow got Blake Griffin?? Yes I know you can't just tank and get the automatic first pick... but i think a couple seasons of completely tanking would give us a better chance of winning in a couple years. Please Rockets... don't become the Astros... make a stupid free agent signing to make a "quick fix." No quick fix in this league, unless you are an Elite big name team.

    Lastly, why have Brooks and Martin on the same team?? Is there really a difference between the two? Yes I know Martin is a SG, but is he really that much worse at passing that Brooks ... lol? I personally think to trade both. KL is good enough to win with. He can still develop a better game. He can pass. You know, a thing that PG’s are suppose to do first?

    just a few thoughts. You have to draft to win in this league, if you aint an Elite team/city. Or get a good trade for a big name. Free agency won't work for us. You can get great supporting players by FA, but not the final answer.

    Of course it takes a little luck along the way


    The path we are taking is not working. Try something new.
     
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  2. across110thstreet

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    if we tanked last year we (hypothetically) would have landed John Wall.

    Tim Duncans, Blake Griffins, and Yao Mings don't come around every year at the expense of the worst team in the NBA
     
  3. Rockets Pride

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    The worst thing in professional sports is being mediocre, you don't get worse and you don't get better. At least if your on the bottom theres longterm hope. TANK TANK TANK
     
  5. RV6

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    yeah this has never been brought up before.... :rolleyes:
     
  6. Rockets Pride

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    well posts the thread links here then. I'd love to read some.
     
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  8. Corrosion

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    There is something to be said for integrity ..... But in our society , so few acctually possess the trait , I can understand ....
     
  9. durvasa

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    We have to tank to draft a superstar? Trade assets for lottery picks and/or try to trade up in the draft. And with "a little luck" (which you admit is necessary) you could potentially draft a superstar.
     
  10. Air Langhi

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    while this years draft will most likely suck, but the last 4 years: durant, rose, griffin, wall.

    Since the yao draft we have had: lebron, dwade, melo, deron, paul, dhoward.

    Usually there are a few franchise type players in most drafts. All of these guys have had more sucess than yao.


    I think we need cavs esque season.
     
  11. ThaShark316_28

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    We can always be ATL or OKC...

    Good players but fatally flawed with little chance of getting that missing piece.
     
  12. studogg

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    If our assets are not keeping us out of the lottery, what is going to make a team that is significantly worse than us want to trade their draft pick for our assets?

    assets are generally better served to attain aging or disgruntled talent.
     
  13. landryMVP

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    You can win by trading for superstars, The Celtics got there big 3 and won a championship that same year. The Heat did the same thing and look at them now, and there is a bunch more that im just not gonna get in to. Being the 8th seed every year could just mean that you are one big piece or superstar away. Tanking is not the answer. I would much rather be at 500 every year and hopefully trade for a superstar then to make a high draft pick and pray we turn out with a Duncan and 4 rings later
     
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    Well, tanking worked for the Rox when they tanked two years in a row an picked up Ralph Sampson the first year and Akeem the second year. The birth of the twin towers. Sampson would have been HOF player had he not blown out his knee. He went to the all-star game (I think his rookie year) and won MVP with Magic feeding him.

    You will stay in the middle forever if you keep drafting from 10 to 20th. That is where the middle players live.
     
  15. Air Langhi

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    The reason why the celtics were able to trade for those guys is because they had some high draft picks.

    The heat got all the stars aligned.
     
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    Some? They had one.
     
  17. ThaShark316_28

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    Tanking worked when there was no lottery. :eek:
     
  18. cheke64

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    To be better we wouldnt even need a trade.
    1.Play ISh
    2.Play TW.
    3.Trade Battier just for the ****s and giggles.


    The biggest misconception here is , if we play the young ones we are automatically tanking. Not true, they are simply better choice over the current starting roster. SO play'em
     
  19. Raven

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    OP is 100% correct.
     
  20. ApuN

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    Its more about front office moves than "tanking"

    RA's Kings that got screwed by the refs and should have gone to the finals when they played the Lakers in the WCF, was a team composed of free agents and saavy trades. Sacremento is hardly a top destination.

    The Detroit teams of the early 2000's with Billups, Hamilton, etc were basically composed of free agents and front office moves.

    Again Detroit is in no way a top destination city.

    The San Antonio example is so misleading because that SA team that tanked that year was really a playoff team. And BTW, they didnt "tank" by going out and losing every night, the tanked by keeping all of their starters on injured reserve.

    SA has been a perrenial contender because the front office did their homework by getting players like Manu and Tony Parker -- hardly the result of tanking

    And as far as Blake and the Clippers, that guy is a once in a lifetime pick, up until then the Cippers are the best example of a team tanking but still being a garbage franchise for 30 somethin years

    This "magic bullet" theory of the draft turning your franchise around is a myth. Most of the time its a mix of a front office doiing its homework along with a little bit of "luck"
     
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