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Can we REALLY afford Lowry ? Putting all our easter eggs in Yaos basket?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by brian_chapman, Mar 23, 2010.

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  1. brian_chapman

    brian_chapman Member

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    Please dont interpret this as a debbie downer post. I am very worried about losing Lowry and next year.

    Its just not being mentioned on here. Everyone is mainly taking the "oh yao will be back dont worry everything will be great and we can win the championship" .

    Im not seeing it that way AT ALL.

    1. Rockets are already on the luxary tax line. Regardless that Morey said we will re-sign Lowry and Scola. HOW? Signing BOTH lowry and scola AND a 1st round pick will put the rockets over. I've heard Les will only pay the tax if its for a superstar. Lowry is not that.

    What if New York offers Lowry 7 mil per. Do Rockets match? Ny could screw us over by overpaying lowry causing us to lose him.

    This is why Im WORRIED about next year.

    1. I think Yao will not be in tip top shape until atleast Allstar break. And even then he will be limited in minutes (reduced minutes=less impact on game)

    2.I DONT think we will re-sign lowry to pay the lux tax. There has to be a reduction in salary somewhere. Either Battier gets traded for an expiring,but would any team really want to take Battiers contract and give up an expiring?

    3.Losing Lowry will be brutal. But,I also dont like how the Rockets played the last 3 games. Especially Brooks.and yes this is a cleverly disguised brooks bash Against Rondo,Brooks was deemed useless. Against the Knicks he was TERRIBLE until the last 2 minutes. So no one is talking about how awful he was. Douglas was destroying him. Then against Bulls ,did Brooks play?

    Unfortunately I see this team keeping Brooks. I just dont think Lebron,Bosh,are coming here. Amare already said no .(insiders)

    4. so that leaves us next year with :

    brooks(a small shooting guard) , possibly losing Lowry because of tax
    martin (good,although doesnt seem to want the last shot)
    ariza (coming on strong lately,budinger is a good backup also)
    scola (can we afford him? )
    yao (lets be real , he may never be the same again,what if he gets injured again?)

    draft pick 14ish, Come on, we are not getting a Bosh at 14. Maybe a backup center if we are lucky....oh wait, I thought Hill was the backup center?

    as you can see, the draft pick may be useless because of the Budinger,Lowry,Hill, backups. A draft pick would take away minutes from Hill,Budinger , or Lowry(if he is still here)

    Now, as far as Yao. Even if he comes back healthy,how long will that last? I already heard a few season ticket holders not renewing until they see a healthy Yao. This team cannot make the playoffs without Yao, so if he goes down is the season over? So we are putting all of our eggs into Yao?

    Sorry, but this has me very worried about next year and the future. Im aware the Rockets will have the option to trade Yao ,but it would be like Tmacs expiring, you'd be lucky to get a couple picks out of it.

    I want a team that can make the playoffs without Yao next year just in case he gets injured .

    Id re-sign Lowry for sure no matter the cost. Id be hesitant on Scola until I see whats going on with Bosh or Jefferson or Lee. Id try to get Rubio if I lose Brooks, and I'd call around and see whats the best player I can get for a Brooks/lottery pick/ny pick/battier/hill package. It just might land us Bosh.

    a team of lowry/martin/ariza/budinger/rubio/bosh/scola/yao would destroy teams. If Yao gets injured I still like our chances (unlike now missing playoffs
     
    #1 brian_chapman, Mar 23, 2010
  2. OremLK

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    Lowry won't be that expensive, partly because he doesn't do the kind of things which are very attractive to most general managers, partly because he's not as good as half the people on this forum think he is, and partly because he missed around 15 games from injury.

    We'll bring him back.

    Scola is the one who has a chance to be expensive if he keeps playing the way he has been.
     
    #2 OremLK, Mar 23, 2010
  3. ShiniKashi

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    Can Les afford Lowry?

    Yes.

    Will he?

    If he wants a winner, yes.
     
    #3 ShiniKashi, Mar 23, 2010
  4. BetterThanEver

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    If NY gets Lowry for $7 mil this off season, that can mean only 1 thing.

    The Knicks bombed out on getting 2 max free agents and used $7 mil in cap space on Lowry.

    The Rockets will have a top 10 lottery pick from NY in 2011. :)
    Morey screws Walsh again!
     
    #4 BetterThanEver, Mar 23, 2010
  5. TracyMcgradyMVP

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    Dont be fooled by this Forum Lowry is a very solid player but not as good as people on this board make him seem. He is gonna get about 3 Mil at max, Teams dont value lowry as much as people on this board do.
     
    #5 TracyMcgradyMVP, Mar 23, 2010
  6. JCDenton

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    ROFL, you're delusional if you think lowry is a MLE player. He's shooting 39.7% on the year and doesn't dish a particularly high number of assists either. The fact that he rebounds and draws fouls well is why he can keep his job as a backup instead of being third string or in the d-league. I think 3 million is more than fair. He's definitely worth a lot less than Landry was.
     
    #6 JCDenton, Mar 23, 2010
  7. LCII

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    your trolling is too obvious now. no one cares anymore.
     
    #7 LCII, Mar 23, 2010
  8. Depressio

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    Actually, people undervalue him. We suddenly got terrible when he injured his ankle (mid-game, too, is when the turn-around did) and suddenly got a 4-game winning streak when he returned.

    Lowry is insanely important to this time, arguably more so than Scola. The Rockets will match any offer given to him. Period.
     
    #8 Depressio, Mar 23, 2010
  9. rhino17

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    I got news for you, Lowry is not worth 7 million. If someone offers him that, the Rockets organization would be stupid not to let him walk. Lowry brings some good stuff to the team, but not at that cost. They also have an emerging PG in Lull in Europe who would be cheaper to bring in. Lowry will be lucky to get the full MLE. Scola is a much higher priority right now.
     
    #9 rhino17, Mar 23, 2010
  10. RocketMania1991

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    The Rockets view Lowry as a much bigger importance than other teams do.

    He'll be back.
     
    #10 RocketMania1991, Mar 23, 2010
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    Lorwy could sign for cheap but then he would want to start. :(
     
    #11 LifeisButaDream, Mar 23, 2010
  12. Noob Cake

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    Lowry is important to us because....
    1) He comes in when Brooks is getting creamed on defense.
    2) Sets up shots for our bench since they can't simply catch the ball and create their own offense like Scola and Martin.
     
    #12 Noob Cake, Mar 23, 2010
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    The person we got to worry about is Scola... Lowry, I think, is a done deal in terms of being a Rocket next year...
     
    #13 jsonic6, Mar 23, 2010
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    As good as Lowry have been played, he's not going to get a 7mil offer. That's Artest type of money.
     
    #14 choujie, Mar 23, 2010
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    hasn't NY made it perfectly clear that they're going exclusively after 2 max contract guys?..and even if they can only get 1 max guy, i highly doubt giving kyle lowry 7 million per is plan B..or C,D,E or F

    maybe F..
     
    #15 petechillcutt, Mar 23, 2010
  16. Fullcourt

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    NY has done the exact opposite and not even technically said they're going for ONE max free agent. They have enough for two near-max players, not two max players. They won't have enough men on the roster if they even did that much. They are in a sticky situation.
     
    #16 Fullcourt, Mar 23, 2010
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    I agree he is a big factor in the win columns, but Scola is the staple. He is the only player no matter what happens comes through. If he went down with injury like Lowry, Rockets would be a below .500 team.
     
    #17 nickb492, Mar 24, 2010
  18. ryano2009

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    Why not, Lowry is great Backup, we can sign him for 3-4 Millions next year.

    Plus he missed alot of games this season due to the injuries he had, I think that will affect his market.
     
    #18 ryano2009, Mar 24, 2010
  19. UTAllTheWay

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    1st off, I seriously doubt the Knicks will pay Lowry $7 million for a PG when they already have Toney Douglas, who has shown promise since becoming the full-time starter. They'll probably stick with the Douglas/Rodriguez PG situation next season. It'll save them a tremendous amount of money that they can use to get a big name player.

    The Nets, however, is a team I could see overpaying for a backup PG. They'll have plenty of money to spend, and considering they are basically the laughing stock of the NBA at this point, I doubt they will be able to lure in a superstar. That means they'll be left with a bunch of money to throw at middle of the pack free agents.

    The thing is, Lowry would be a backup PG there as well, and I really don't think he'll be willing to leave Houston for the Nets... I just can't see that happening.
     
    #19 UTAllTheWay, Mar 24, 2010
  20. rhino17

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    No, there is no way he is as valuable as the people on this board think he is. He is the most overrrated plater on this team by a long shot. There is no way in Hell the Rockets match a 7 million dollar offer for him
     
    #20 rhino17, Mar 24, 2010
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