Somali axe man attempts to kill 75 yr old Danish cartoonist for Muhammad cartoon

You know what. If someone has the time, please point out all the instances where you believe that any poster has condoned death threats or violence.

 

Exactly.

DD

 

I'm not going to do that, but I believe only Mathloom has openly done this. Twice, if memory serves. Other posters are likely confusing your arguments with his.

 

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Thanks for replying to my previous two posts that were directly in response to you.

 

Ok I'm really tired of saying the same thing over and over again. I did not say I want him dead. I said I want him to go on with his life always worrying that someone wants to kill him. No action towards him. Just his own mind.

The idea is that since his cowardly behavior was within the bounds of the law, then the retaliation should be appropriate and within the bounds of the law. From now on, I hope no one ever attacks him ever ever again. Do you understand that? But I do hope that he is constantly in fear of being attacked one more time, despite never really being in danger.

Done with this. Thanks for the conversation.

 

There is a difference between this:

and this:

 

This is a sick, twisted, and despicable way of thinking.

 

Tha'ts a big accusation, you're going to have to show me that.

In case I have somehow communicated to you that the cartoonist and the axeman deserve the same punishment, I apologise. I thought I made it clear that the axeman should be in jail for life. I thought I made it clear that the axeman is majorly at fault. I made these things clear on page 1 before the debate's focus shifted to whether or not a person should be surprised that an angry Muslim Somali attacked the cartoonist with an axe.

If I have in fact not been clear that one transgression is worse than the other, I apologize. However, in any case, please show me where you think I communicated that murder is not worse than drawing a cartoon of the Prophet PBUH.

Thanks.

 

I wish you would be more constructive than that.

In any case, I'm sure you'll understand if I don't continue this exchange with you lol.

Thanks

 

It's hilarious - you wish for someone who has not broken any law and has only exercised his right to freedom of speech to fear for his life for the rest of his life, but you expect me to be "more constructive". Is that indicative of Muslim double standards in terms of tolerance, or is it just you?

You the Muslim MadMax - never - that would be an insult to MadMax.

 

I know you see it this way, but I assure you it is not the only or the only right way to see it.

As for being the Muslim MadMax, I'm not sure why you're so obsessed with this reference, but I'll leave it up to him and God rather than you. I'm sure you understand.

 

I liked this thread better when Mathloom wasn't coupling his "this discussion is over's" with weak attempts to revise his past statements and steal the last word. You have been exposed, let it live, man.

 

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2004/hrcn1082.doc.htm

COMMISSION ADOPTS RESOLUTIONS ON COMBATING DEFAMATION OF RELIGIONS; RIGHT TO DEVELOPMENT.

 

Thankfully, I have the records to back me up. I'll take your statement as an admission that you couldn't back up your statements.

I'd like to repeat my apology if I somehow communicated to you that I think murder was appropriate or that drawing a disrespectful cartoon of the Prophet PBUH is more serious than the taking of a human life.

If you're content to gloss over your accusation as if it never happened and make comments like the one above, then again, I don't think we need to continue this exchange. Thanks.

 

What an insanely silly rejoinder. Your desire for him to be scared necessitates a legitimacy inherent to the action causing fear. I.e., by casually wishing/endorsing him to be scared the rest of his life, you are casually wishing/endorsing that people desire to kill him - otherwise, why would he be scared?

More doublespeak... in an attempt to defend yourself, you've once again proved me right. You have no leg to stand on here - as shipwreck put it, you've been exposed. Badly.

But don't think I'm taking pleasure in this; frankly, it's disturbing and depressing.

Likewise.

 

I always knew Mathloom was just here to pick at our standards etc....some of his topics were pretty clear that he was a wolf in sheeps clothing if you will.

Glad he has been exposed.....

And in answer to the first quote in his sig where he shows a picture of a bunch of worshipers as a reason we should respect Islam.....I give you this:



As an example of why masses of people following something is not a reason for respect.

DD

 

It seems as though this is /thread.

This was long and painfully meticulous for some of us, but it was necessary and I hope it gave many posters food for thought. Thanks to DD, SirJC, ChrisBosh, Slcrocket and The Rhadaman for your always consistent and earnest contributions. Big ups to Hamza for being thorough and honest while arguing from difficult perspective to defend, and one that is virtually impossible for many of us Americans to truly understand. ****, even Mathloom, all disagreements aside, we appreciate your participation. Much was learned here and hopefully, our time was not in vain.

 

this has got to be a cultural misunderstanding here.

Why would you expect someone to respect and abide by the rules of your religion if they do not follow said religion?

If I am not catholic, would someone who was catholic expect me to go to confession, pay penance for my sins and/or take communion? Of course they wouldnt, as I am not a follower of that religion. Another example, christians frown mightily on taking the lord's name in vain....is it understandable for them to retaliate if an atheist were to say god damn?

Sorry muslim guys....you can not reasonably expect non-muslims to follow your religion's rules. Period.

You are involved in an open discussion on a message board viewable by many, dont get your panties in a bunch if someone pokes their nose in and comments on said discussion. slcrocket has been around here much longer then you and felt he knew where DD was coming from...and judging by the reply from DD, he was correct. You were out of line taking that tone with him.


and lastly.....sigs are not supposed to have D&D material in them Mathloom...as Clutch has said....Keep the D&D IN D&D (paraphrased)

 

I still would like to hear how shipwreck thinks that the majority of Muslims APPLAUDED the twin tower attacks. That was uncalled for and completely false. I think the intense conversation going on in this thread caused some posters to spill out unwanted accuracies but I wanted to be cleared up since we're trying to clear up everything.

Mathloom, unfortunately I think you've made us Muslims look slightly more negative with the "fear" statement, which I don't agree with. All in all, it was a good discussion to read and valuable points were made from both sides.

 

Not the majority, but definitely way too many. And to quote my two favorite taxi drivers (Turkish Muslims): "No, that was not ok...I mean, if they had just killed Bush, it would have been perfectly fine, but why kill all these other people"...