Lowry can start for a lot NBA teams too.He has a much better floor game than Brooks minus shooting. AB fits starting lineup better than Lowry because Hayes, Battier, Scola are not exactly up tempo type of players and Hayes, Battier, Ariza have troulbe scoring, but that doesn't mean he is always better than Lowry no matter what the lineup is. We used to have Bob Sura who couldn't shoot but had a great floor game, and the offense ran beautifully even under JVG . Tmac, Yao, David Wesley, Job Barry, Scott Padgett, Juwan Howard etc still could shoot very well. It was unfortunate Sura got hurt and JHO had heart problem when playoff came, otherwise We'd beat Dallas in that series. Lowry's game is very close to Bob Sura, with the right personal and enough offensive threat, Lowry at PG could only do better than AB. That' how I see it. Per 48 minutes, Lowry has a +/- of 10.7 to AB's -4.6 by December 26. That is HUGE.
Lowry's +/- numbers have to be a microcosm of the bench itself providing better offensive production than the starters (Thank you Carl Landry) If Kyle had a jumper he'd be starting anywhere, he's a floor general.
I actually agree with his reasoning. Only problem is, the real all-nba teams do not distinguish between pg and sg or SF and PF, they are any G or F.
I dunno about that, Brooks has a -4.6 for sure. But Battier and Ariza are both -6. Hayes is the only starter with a positive, and his is +1. Heck, the first 4 players off the bench are Landry at +3.9, Lowry at +10.7, Budinger at +3.6, and Andersen at +3.4. This tells me that the Rockets bench is a big key in their success. Remember the plus minus stat gets better the more people you add in together, as it removes potential variables.
Even without a jumper he still can start for many teams. It's true Carl Landry had helped Lowry's +/-. but that can't explain everything because Landry has a +/- or 3.6, Lowry has +10.7. Lowry musdt have done something by himself too. Just like Battier, Lowry does a lot of things not showing on stats sheet. The hustle, the energy, the quickness to get to the lose ball first. He also got to the line a lot to make up for his lack of shooting touch. AB got a lot more credit than he deserved, Lowry on the other hand got less. Because fans only see if you can score.
You are correct, bench is a big key for us. That is the reason why AB shouldn't take that much credit for team's success. Many nights our bench saved the day, not AB. AB and starters held their own against opponents, but bench got us ahead more often than not.
This is just flat out wrong. Lowry is a spark plug off the bench but he has to have quality finishers around him because he just can't shoot the ball, jumps into the air with nowhere to go too often and teams don't guard him on the perimeter. Yes, he is a great floor general, and he is aggressive as hades...he is a very good contrast, but if he was a starter on this team he would stink at it... He would be going against the first team's PG, and playing with players that don't run, and don't finish. Conversely if Brooks was the backup his numbers would sky rocket because he would be playing with better finishers. It is no coincidence that the one game Budinger started, Brooks had 10 assists. Brooks is far and away the better player, he is just in a different role than Lowry... Heck, whom did the Rockets extend, and whom did they decide to NOT extend? Sort of tells you a bit doesn't it? DD
How could our Brooks be considered the #3 Point Guard, he has along way to go to reach that level. His scoring is great but his Point Guard abilities are poor but improving. A Point Guard is a player who imrpoves the play of his team. He is a playmaker and assits on many of the scoring opportunities, this dosen't describe our Brooks, infact it points out his deficiencies. It won't take him long to improve as we already know he can do it when he makes up his mind to do so
Again, not true....there are varieties of point guards, some are assist centric like Jason Kidd, others are scoring centric like Tony Parker. There is NOT a "REAL PG" definition. It is whatever the team needs to make itself successful. DD
Why is Brooks' +/- 2 points better than Battier or Ariza?? Surely as BAD as Brooks has been, these two solid defenders who do more than just add to box scores would have a better net +/- than Aaron. Just to note, the 5 man unit that has the best off/def differential features Brooks/Lowry/Budinger/Landry/and Andersen. Interesting that the lineup that features the smallish backcourt is that efficient. Never understood why there had to be an Aaron or Kyle mentality among fans. I like em both, and will defend either when their play is put down by so called Rocket fans.
There is no definitive PG. There is the stereotypical PG play, but if you are bringing the ball up the court, initiating the play, putting points on the board for your team either through buckets, FTs, or passing the ball to other players in opportune scoring position then you are the point guard. This offense does not require a Deron Williams or Chris Paul type to function. Would those kinda guys work well in our system?? Probably so. But this is a team oriented offense. Heck, half the time we dont have an 8 or 10 assist guy, we have 3 or 4 guys with 4 or more assists.
I think Brooks is one of the best point guard of shooting in NBA now (Nash is NO.1). He should improve assists although he dose well this season.
I don't agree. Actually AB is the type to be a spart plug off the bench for a normal NBA team with enough fire powers. Like a Terry in Dallas. You got it backwards. When Kidd couldn't shoot, he still took his team far. I'm not saying Lowry is at the same level as Kidd, but he played similar style of PG game. There is no reason Lowry can't be a good starter on a team with a lot firepowers. Lowry has played a lot minutes against first team's PG, especially when AB got posted up too easily. The one game Budinger started, Brooks had 10 assists is no coincidence? How about since Budinger went down Lowry still has more assits than AB in less minutes? Is that coincidence? You have too much selective memories. Brooks is a better player than Lowry only when he has a hot hand. Everytime AB is cold, Lowry seems to be a better choice because he has other games to back him up. That's why I say they are on the the same level, they both have flaws. Rockets is very fortunate that they alwasys have Lowry to come in when AB is cold. And are you kidding about the extend thing? Lowry is restricted FA with a team optin, so why Rockets need to extend in a hurry? But If you don't extend AB, you'd risk losing him for nothing. Tell me any GM in his right mind would do that.
Well, definitely AB is better for shooting, but Lowry has a higher basketball IQ. One more thing need to notice, nest season when Yao come back, Lowry will be a better choice bo be the starting PG than AB.
Battier had a terrible start offensively as everybody knows, and he's just starting to catch up. Ariza is in a huge slump right now, as everybody knows too. the best off/def dirrerential team has both Lowry and Brooks on it. That shows you in that situation AB could shoot more like a SG and Lowry could play PG. I'm fine with AB this year, just don't think he's as good as some fans claim him to be. He's on the same level with Lowry. Nobody can really provide evidence showing why AB is that much better than Lowry except shooting.
Actually its really close with Williams. Brooks is barely ahead of Williams on 2FG. While Williams does have an edge on 3 point FGs. Still, one of those is option 1A on their team, while the other gets to play with Lebron.
