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Tracy isn't hurt he just quit

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ktvoss, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. Big Puma

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    fify.
     
  2. pipilu007

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    Adelman must do this!or the whole team may be sucked really!
     
  3. Big Puma

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    You know what's so hilarious and hypocritical about this thread? A lot of these haters that accuse T-Mac of quitting are probably the Francis fans, since they also believe that T-Mac tanked the Raptors game to make Francis look bad (and Rafer look good).

    Of course, the irony is that Francis is the individual that actually HAS quit on his team on more than one occasion. As any Magic fan. He's refused to come back in games when the coach ordered him to, and he even skipped a team flight to attend a party.
     
  4. durvasa

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    Not to mention that Steve was even more pathetic against the 76ers than McGrady. At least T-Mac had the excuse that he was getting double teamed.
     
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    T-mac pissed me off, shame on him
    Yao should carry the tean on, it's time
    Scola needs to find his position, he should not always be a role player with Tracy on court,so does Steve
     
  6. jondoe

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    I cannot believe what TMac said in Houston Chronicle article. He is a loser.

    "Double-team myself. Double-team Yao. They do that; that puts the onus on the other guys to make plays. It's not happening. It's really not happening. I got off to a hot start (Monday), and they started taking the ball out of my hands. We don't know what to do. It's been going like that the past few games. Maybe I need to start (games) not making shots and pass the ball so they could single-cover everybody."

    Geez why not throw everyone under the bus but you? He is truly a problem. I hope he doesnt play on Wednesday and hides in his mansion where he belongs. :mad:
     
  7. Big Puma

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    LOL the only problems are the clueless fans that can't accept reality. Once again, the problems on the court revolve around the role players. T-Mac is 100% right. He can throw them all under the bus if he feels like it. Where were you when Yao "threw everyone under the bus" by calling the whole team "soft"? I guess it's only OK when Big Yao does it huh?

    The only way we start winning and correctly run Adelman's system is if the role players start doing their damn job instead of standing around and praying that T-Mac's or Yao's greatness will bail them out. This is supposed to be a MOTION offense, and there is absolutely no motion to be found. Once the role players decide to create some chaos for opposing defenses and move off the ball, we can get this system started and not look completely "discombobulated" like T-Mac said.
     
  8. Clutch

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    I hate to say it, but that reminds of when Weisbrod would say that the Magic would struggle, and he'd go to McGrady as the leader and he'd get the "What do you want me to do - I got 30" attitude.

    For the life of me, I can't figure this guy out. On the radio yesterday he said:

    "We have a great deal of talent on our team, but until we have some guys sacrifice and coach lets everyody know what their roles are, we're just gonna be mediocre. Hopefully though this short season right now, we all understand that some guys have to sacrifice their games. If you're a scorer, you might have to cut back and be a defender or a ball mover -- something like that -- so we can all mesh and get on the right track and play consistent basketball."

    So which is it: The other guys need to step up and score, or the other guys need to sacrifice their scoring to defend and move the ball?
     
  9. robbie380

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    it's pretty clear how much influence van gundy had on t-mac's "personality". the guy has no clue anymore.
     
  10. rockbox

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    Clutch,

    I think Tmac doesn't get it. It's Tmac who needs to sacrafice and become more effecient. You can't have a guy who shoots 43 percent from the field taking 20-30 jumpshots a game especially when he takes nights off.

    The other problem is that we force feed Tmac and Yao too much. We spend half our energy just getting these guys the ball so they can ISO. I wish our guys would just take it to the rack whenever they double Yao and Tmac without the ball.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    One of my biggest beefs with JVG is he never...NEVER .....not once, never EVER...held Tmac accountable.

    Never yelled at him, never scolded him, never benched him...nothing.

    JVG treated him with kid gloves and it was a massive mistake....


    To JVG's credit, he got the team to play tough defense night in and night out, but he was never going to win anything because of his lack of adjustments or creativity on offense.

    Rick Adelman needs time for the players to learn how he wants things, he is a players coach, he wants players to think for themselves. Someone to step up and be a leader on the floor, you know why? Because THAT is how you go places in the playoffs.

    The team is a bit off the mark because they have come from a control freak to total freedom and have not completely adjusted yet.

    But in the end, they will be better trusting each other, and dealing with adversity on the court than in the locker room.

    DD
     
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    Tracy McGrady


    MEOW...PURRRRRRRR!!!
     
  13. Rockza

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    Why do we blame TMac for everything?? First, his shooting percent while getting doubled is still better than every other player on Rockets except for Yao. To think most of the other guys actually shoot open shots after being setup by TMac! One of the main reason why TMac's shooting percent is low is he is taking shots off double team because his teammates are not making OR even taking wide open shots. TMac yelled at Rafer once for passing a wide open shot and Yao at Francis.

    Now the reason we are losing imo is because we don't have a consistent high percent shooter after Head was benched. We also need more set plays for Scola instead of Yao. Once we have established a third scorer, everything will get easier for our two superstars.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    We are losing becaues Tmac has decided to NOT run the offense, to NOT play defense and to basically go into passive aggressive mode because he has not bought into the system.


    Tmac is the problem the team is following his lead...

    If he said, ok team we are going to go full force and committ to Adelman's way...we would not be losing.

    DD
     
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    No one person runs Adelman's offense.. EVERYONE IS A PASSER IN ADELMAN'S OFFENSE. Thats one reason why we look so lost because except for TMac no one else can pass! And our starters are so used to JVG's offense where they stand around and watch Yao or TMac do their thing that they are not cutting in Adelman's offense!!
     
  16. Rockza

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    If we actually have TMac run the offense, we would be in a much better place. We might never win a championship, but definitely be better than our current record. Remember our 21-10 record last year without Yao and with weaker role players?
     
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    The Rockets are 13-40 without T-Mac. I think that speaks for itself. T-Mac ain't going nowhere and he will, along with Yao Ming, lead us into the Finals.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    That is NOT what we are talking about...watch how Tmac plays, he comes and gets the ball at the top of the key from the PG and initiates his move, THAT IS NOT THE OFFENSE....

    Tmac has not bought in...that is the problem...when your star players refuses to run the offense what do you think it tells the rest of the team?

    The point is to get Tmac to end up with the ball in his hands and get a good uncontested shot....you know...move WITHOUT the ball....

    Tmac is the main problem....no doubt about it.

    DD
     
  19. Clutch

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    ... as soon as he leads us past the Sixers.

    And he'll come back at some point, if not tonight, and hit 17-25 shots for 40+ and some will go "Aha! See you disloyal fans!"

    That's not the point. His talent isn't in question -- in fact, a player with his length and talent level are practically unheard of. He makes it look easy. That's why he can afford to be lazy at times. That's why he's coddled.

    I don't think he is a team leader at all though ... and I'm not throwing that out as an insult to make myself feel better. Looks pretty factual to me -- he has not shown it at all.

    Yao is showing some signs of leadership ... unfortunately though Yao is a flawed talent. A big man with that size and that shooting touch ... wow. But his mechanical, turnover-prone ways show up far too often.
     
  20. Rockza

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    haha if only it was that simple... this might actually work if TMac was not getting double teamed. No matter how fast he runs around the court, the only way he or Yao can get uncontested shots are if other rockets players are cutting to the basket and getting easy baskets or if they are hitting their jumpers.

    Yea I know, it is very easy to blame one person. The fact of the matter is, he is still just one person.
     

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