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National Anthem, your favorite version

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Another Brother, Jun 15, 2007.

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  1. A-Train

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    I might have forgiven that chick for forgetting the words if she had a halfway decent voice, but damn, that's the double whammy right there. She's lucky she wasn't in Philly, or they would have booed her off the court.
     
  2. Dr of Dunk

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    ... but if you're buying CD's aren't you buying the illusion - a lot of it is all doctored, cut-up, computer engineered, etc.? In most cases, you sure aren't going to get that sound live. Again, unless maybe it's a live CD. I guess that's what I don't get. It's like saying, I don't mind if it's fake as long as they don't sing along with it. :confused:
     
  3. geeimsobored

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    She was completely off pitch after she lost it on the second line, but I'm sure she sounds better when she's able to focus on getting her pitch right.

    Either way, nice job Mo Cheeks. Unfortunately, while he's a great person, he's still a bad coach.
     
  4. iball

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    How about Faith Hill? I think it was the Superbowl some years back.
     
  5. Faos

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    End of discussion:

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  6. BrockStapper

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    sorry you don't get it.

    If I buy something as a studio album I know what to expect. If I buy tickets to a concert performance of that material I should see a live performance or I will demand my money back.

    I'm sorry you don't get it and I am well aware of what happens in a studio and on a stage.
     
  7. Lil Pun

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    So when you pay for the tickets to a sporting event your also paying for the person singing the National Anthem? I don't think it works like that.
     
  8. Dr of Dunk

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    lol. I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't get that either. :)

    "I GOT SOME SUPER BOWL TICKETS!!! WHITNEY BETTER SING LIIIIIIIIIIVE!"

    or is it,

    "I BOUGHT SOME TICKETS TO THE NATIONAL ANTHEM - DAMN THE GAME!!!"
     
  9. Dr of Dunk

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    'fraid not.

    Here's what can happen during the National Anthem if you risk it, courtesy of your example, Clay Aiken, himself - but hey, it wasn't pre-recorded so everybody got their "money's worth" :

    http://www.exposay.com/clay-aiken-croaks-and-butchers-live-song/v/6651/

    Exactly what you don't want to happen during something as important as the National Anthem. This isn't about music mavens wanting live singing, its about paying respect to a song and it's meaning.
     
  10. MR. MEOWGI

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    I don't see much meaning in something that is fake.
     
  11. BrockStapper

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    although you could argue that it is the American way...

    If the song has that much meaning to some of these people you think they would want someone singing who can actually sing the song.
     
  12. Dr of Dunk

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    How is it fake? She obviously sang it. So again, you, too, don't buy CD's or mp3's?
     
  13. Dr of Dunk

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    Aaah, now it's coming out... so you don't like Whitney's singing? Is that it?
     
  14. BrockStapper

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    no, it's "how much did these freakin' tickets cost?!? And they send out a lip syncher? wtf?".

    or "how can that be your favorite performance of the National Anthem if the person isn't actually performing the song?".

    to each his own. You keep your illusion and be happy and content with mediocrity while I demand that my live performances (regardless of context) are indeed live.
     
  15. MR. MEOWGI

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    She was faking actually singing the song live. I don't consider lip syncing a true performance. People are posting the VIDEO, not the audio file. Just about anyone could get out there and lip sync the song.

    If you say her recorded version is the greatest, that's fine. But the "performance" was lame. All lip syncing is garbage.

    And if people there KNEW she was lip syncing the applause wouldn't have been nearly the same.
     
  16. Dr of Dunk

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    So you'd buy Super Bowl tickets to hear someone sing the National Anthem? We aren't talking about your typical concert here, in case you haven't figured it out. Whitney Houston was singing at a Super Bowl.

    How can any song you buy on mp3 or cd be your favorite unless the exact same performance and sound is done for you live? You are illogical.

    Music snobs!!! :D
     
  17. Lil Pun

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    Again, you're paying for the game. Artists and performers sing the National Anthem for free and in return get the exposure to the thousands and sometimes millions in attendance and watchers on TV. Can't really complain what you don't pay for.

    The Whitney is well remembered because of the timing and events of the year that she did that. DoD said it once, the song has more meaning than the person singing it anyway.

    Fine. :)
     
  18. BrockStapper

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    not particularly - but obviously several points are being missed here.

    You can't seem to seperate a CD from a live performance. I have worked on both ends of that spectrum and very much view the two as seperate worlds.

    Anyway, you stay content with watching an actor pretend to be a singer and I will stay content by demanding quality in live music performance. Maybe the difference is the fact that I've worked in many multi-million dollar studios or that my last live sound gig was in a large venue with a 100,000 watt Meyer speaker system. Either way - nothing you say is going to change my view on this but I will clarify that live is live and studio is studio for those of you who might have trouble grasping this concept.

    Demanding quality live "LIVE" performance of cd material has no relation to purchasing cd's unless the "LIVE" performance sucks - in which case you might think twice about supporting some hack's music career.

    I don't watch American Idol either. And don't ask me my thoughts on Karoke.

    All the best,
    Brock
     
  19. BrockStapper

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    I thought she was well remembered for the crack and the beatings... but heh, not everyone can be the queen of soul now can they?

    If the argument is that they can't hear themselves in a venue such as a superbowl might be held that's simply false. There is technology to get around the time delay of material coming back atcha'. Most specifically - the ears systems all of these artists use anyway.

    If it is that it's the superbowl and it is more important for the song to be sung right - I would say hire someone who can do live what they do in the studio or ask Whitney to sing within her limitations for the sake of the song.

    If it is that you are paying to see a game and not someone singing the national anthem I would ask why in the hell they went through all the trouble in the first place. Just pipe in the music and pay someone fifty bucks to pretend like they are signing along.

    While seeing someone lip synch at a superbowl would not kill the experience for me I would be damn glad when the illusion ended and the game was back on. I don't find false advertising entertaining except in the most abstract sense.
     
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  20. Lil Pun

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    I was talking about her rendition of the song smarty.
     

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