Defense vs Offense, JVG vs Adelman (with facts for once)

It's simple and clear:

Rick Adelman could coach his team had top 10 both in offense eff and def eff.

While JVG's team had consistently top 10 defense eff. but offense eff. was always 14+

With a same roaster, I'll Rick Adelman as coach any day of the week.

 

Good job. Are you Morey?

JVG is a good coach but he needs his style of player to play his game and he is not good in utilising the strength of his player. After 4 years, I think the Rocket needs a change.

 

i still think we can become an elite team with a real pg and pf.

 

Helpful analysis.

Still, skewing the results (with 4 of the 5 #1 Off Eff in the last 20 year) is MJ. There is no MJ in the league right now. If you have an MJ, thow out all of your statistical analysis,

And if you look at the last 10 years, defense has more than just an edge.

It's good to see Adelman has the potential to coach a good defense, but no way he as brutally consistent on D as JVG. I wonder what our Off Eff was this year before Yao went down?

 

But JVG's offenisve eff were consistently lower than average also.

 

thing is, every good team plays can and will play lock down defense come playoffs. JVG's defense looked stellar during the regular season because we played lots of less than average teams. Our weakness on offense showed when we had to play teams that could match our intensity.

If you have a rebuilding team trying to make some noise and over achieve, JVG is the man, hands down. You can keep teams from scoring 70 all season long, make the playoffs, get eliminated in the first round and still be happy. If you have an all star core and you need a few good players (read - can make a freaking open jumpshot), you need someone else.

 

Just to show... Adelman does know defense and offense.
02/03 Sacramento Kings Off Eff: 7 Def Eff: 2
01/02 Sacramento Kings Off Eff: 5 Def Eff: 6
00/01 Sacramento Kings Off Eff: 9 Def Eff: 7
92/93 Portland Trail Blazers Off Eff: 13 Def Eff: 2
91/92 Portland Trail Blazers Off Eff: 7 Def Eff: 2
90/91 Portland Trail Blazers Off Eff: 3 Def Eff: 3
89/90 Portland Trail Blazers Off Eff: 8 Def Eff: 3

 

Thank you for doing this, it is fairly clear that balance is what we need to succeed.

Offense and Defense are both important.

DD

 

Great analysis. What's amazing to me is that even in the Rockets 04-05 year, we were as low as 15th in offensive efficiency. That was the one year you could say our offense looked smooth, though that wasn't really the case until the last 1/3 of the season.

The conclusion that JVG can't coach offense is pretty inescapable. Very encouraging signs on the defense side for Adelman, too. I'd guess he is a guy who focuses on offense first, then works on defense once he has enough personnel that fit his style.

 

check mate son

very good work and analysis

but at the end of the day I still would not put much into stats

there are many other factors that could bring you a title

anyways, thanks for putting it out

 

Fixed.



H-Town - where have all of JVG's teams ranked in both offense and defensive efficiency?

That should be a good indicator of his abilities to coach both sides of the ball.

DD

 

looking at adleman's past team effeciencies clearly showes that with the right roster he can coach a good defensive team.

02/03 Sacramento Kings Off Eff: 7 Def Eff: 2
01/02 Sacramento Kings Off Eff: 5 Def Eff: 6
00/01 Sacramento Kings Off Eff: 9 Def Eff: 7

92/93 Portland Trail Blazers Off Eff: 13 Def Eff: 2
91/92 Portland Trail Blazers Off Eff: 7 Def Eff: 2
90/91 Portland Trail Blazers Off Eff: 3 Def Eff: 3
89/90 Portland Trail Blazers Off Eff: 8 Def Eff: 3

he played guys like doug christie, and scott pollard who can't shoot worth a damn, but were great defenders. adleman is a better all around coach. what these numbers don't show is his ability to get the most out of his players, and adjust during games. things gundy never did.

 

Undeniably so, but clearly defense has the edge in the playoffs, and good defense is harder to come by.

What was our downfall? Team shooting consistency? The entire team would go into a slump. Why this occurs I have no idea (and no, it's not just the other teams's D since we know how many wide-open shots were missed). So how close were we to the promised land? Yet now it's all full of unknowns.

 

Fair points, Cohen.

Do you think that the head coaches demeanor could have an effect on the players performance, especially during stress filled times?

I just wonder if JVG's worry-wart approach doesn't add to the tension the players feel.

DD

 

This is great information. I hope you post more often.

 

Gumby's preaches season long intensity which skews the numbers even more. His teams can't put into another gear like the others. This is proven by the fact that Utah and Dallas shot over 50 percent in game 7 on us.

Gumby is too easy to figure out because he doesn't have any tricks up his sleeve other than having Rybo cover Dirk.

 

A more offensively oriented game (balance accepted) will require SHOOTERS. Ultimately, the Rocket's ole nemesis, "can't shoot straight," was their undoing. This team has been Brick City for a good long time. (the Sura-Barry team going seven with Dallas was a slight exception)

 

Word.

 

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