Not surprising you chicken out by avoiding the question: "Why can't you be happy you have a winning team out of the gates for the first time in what - 10 years?" That is what you said, isn't it? You are a clown. You know everyone knows that now, right?
It is not about his reading comprehension. This guy is garbage. He chooses to twists facts and ignore points in others' post. Everyone who visit D&D knows he is garbage. It is not worth reasoning with him. He has no sense of decency.
All coaches have strengths and weaknesses, just like anyone . So does JVG. But there is one thing, and I think one thing only, that makes JVG not a suitable coach for this team: he is a stodgy and non-creative coach. If you look at his styles from NY to here, you notice that he still uses pretty much the same formula as what he learned from Pat Riley more than 10 years ago. Pick and roll, and inside out. Given these are good strategies when they work, but there has to be backup plans when other teams learn your schemes. If you hear the bits from other coaches, you will hear the same theme. I remember Phil Jackson and Isiah (on different occasions) said the same thing about JVG: predictable. When the coach is predictable, the players have to work extra hard to achieve results, because other teams are employing schemes to counter JVG's scheme. Another pattern you can see. JVG is very diligent in preparing for a game, or a series, but then he is not creative enough to adjust when opponent figures him out. A few examples: - You also see the same pattern during 2004-2005 playoff with Dallas. It was obvious that JVG had great preparation to start the series, winning 2-0 at Dallas. But then Avery adjusted to JVG's scheme, and started beating Rox. JVG did not (or could not) adjust back, hence lost the series after such a commanding lead. - The same pattern for the last few games. The gameplan worked early, but then the opponent adjusted and we lost the lead or the game. I admit the players take some of the blame for not playing hard enough, but that's my point. When you play the same scheme all the time, and opponents learn how to counter your schemes, the same scheme can only work with a lot more effort. That's the definition of working hard, but not working smart. If JVG has plan A, plan B, plan C, the team will be a lot more unpredictable, making it much harder for opponents to adjust and counter. My conclusion is: JVG will NOT take this team to championship. We will be a perennially good team that reaches playoff, but that's about it. I wish I were wrong, but I doubt it.
Garbage? No. He may view the world through "Mister Van Gundy colored glasses," but that does not make him worthless or evil. He may have some reading comprehension problems, but that is for professionals to decide. Bringing this back to the topic at hand, the Rockets have started 6-4 or better many times in the past ten years, most of them (by absolute number, or by percentage) under a head coach that is not Mr. Van Gundy.
Fair enough. 6-4 is not an impressive start by any means. But it's nothing to get bent out of shape either. Rockets when the next two games and boom, they are 8-4 which is definitely a great start for this team. JVG should be at worst on probation. Let the man coach now that he has a full regimen of players. He didn't do any worse the Rudy T with the players Rudy T had. I say JVG needs to hit at least 53 or 54 games to secure his job, and that's still entirely in the realm of possibilities.
Cases for replacing JVG: 1. JVG constrains players instead of letting players do what they do best 2. JVG blames players for failures. Even though he blames himself sometimes, but that’s more rhetoric than anything. He blames his players for not playing hard enough, not doing enough of this or that. Hell he even blames his players when they win. 3. JVG is too tight with his players. You notice that almost every player that comes to JVG’s team becomes scary cats. They look at the coach for what to do, can’t take initiative, hesitate in shooting, etc., etc. Basketball is a fluid game – some level of dynamism and creativity is needed for players to do well. So what if the players make a few mistakes along the way, they will learn to play through it, and will get better as a result. 4. As a result, note the level of unhappiness amongst the players here. Stro was happy to be traded back, and is doing better back in Memphis. TMac hinted on retirement. Battier hinted on wanting to be traded to Pistons. Alston is becoming less comfortable in his game than when he was in Toronto that was a pretty bad team. Mike James didn’t want to come back to Rox (he has other excuses, but we all know why). This is not a team having fun, and it is hard to win when you are not enjoying what you do. 5. The reality is, JVG is not creative. He uses the same style of play in NY, which he learned from Pat Riley, and still uses the same style here. Comments from a few coaches (e.g., Phil J, Isiah T) indicate as such: JVG is predictable. 6. Examples of this: Dallas playoff series 2 years ago. It is obvious by game 3 and 4 that Avery figured out Rockets’ gameplan, and had countered it successfully. Did JVG change the plan? Of course not, and hence Rox lost the series. Naturally, he blamed the players for not playing hard enough, not going for loose ball, bla, bla. The reality is, when opponent figures out your strategy, it is much much harder be successful with your strategy. Just like a football game, if a team always runs, it will be much easier to counter it. The running team can still win, but it needs to be vastly superior. In the parity-driven and salary-capped NBA, no team can be vastly superior to others. 7. JVG is a mere average coach, according to this observation: http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/5996466. Not that say a FoxSports writer is an expert, but note that this was written 31 days ago, during pre-season, so not biased by what’s going on now. 8. Most importantly, JVG simply had not delivered results. With its two superstars, and 2 more legit 2nd or 3rd team NBA, Rox has one of the best set of players in NBA, but are barely winning. Tell me which teams have clearly superior talents compared to this team?
i'm just wondering why JVG is limiting his rotation. He DO realize that the playoffs is like 70 games away right? At this rate, TMac and Yao will be out due to injuries by January.
jvg is a horses a@#, and has no motivational skills. if i remember correctly this has been the mo of all of these teams coached by van dummy since he got here. rudy was to quick to call timeouts and this r****d is WAY TO SLOW, when a 20 point lead slips to 9 YOU CALL A TIMEOUT not when u are finally down by 2. i am getting sick of the same old problems year in and year out, and what is the common thread? jeff van dummy. all i know is if my team had pulled this sh%^t they would either be - a. running their butts off at practice the next day and every day after a late game collapse or - b. timeout, starters if u want to play like a bunch of pu$$ie$ i will put the bench out there, at least they will play with some passion. i get sick of his same old rotations, and every year he seems to pick one sorry a@# player to play to much (bowen, padget) and one to put in the dog house, some deserved given, but a player needs time on the court to play out of a funk (swift, anderson, and now wells) did he bench t-mac when he was shooting 35%? this guy is a head strong idiot who is coaching like it was 1997, and sometimes his decisions make no sence at all (using rafer on an inbounds pass). at first i liked him, no nonsence (benching francis for going to the superbowl) i like a coach who dsnt play favorites, but i am getting sick of this crap. unfortunately by the time we get rid of him this season will be a loss, not like last year, but definately not what this team could have been capable of. oh well i think this is the last year on his contract so i am pretty sure this will be the last year we have to put up with this nonsence!
Oh mine mine..I didn't know you get a pass to be stupid by making contribution. Please don't try to insult this wonderful website like that. Again, answer my questions: How many JVG-haters have you identified to be Chinese? How many JVG-haters on this board? How many Chinese posters on this board? What's your definition of 'so many'? You will know how stupid your assertion is after you analyse the numbers a little bit. Don't try to avoid the questions. Be a man.
Ya know, all this "be a man" crud, and "how stupid your assertion" is...maybe you should do the analyzing and count up the numbers. After all, you feel so passionately about my statement. I don't really care. Why should I have to answer your 50 million questions. WHy can't you be a man and say, "That man spoke his perception, and I disagree" and leave it at that. No, you got to say let me ask this guy a bajillion questions, and if he doesn't invest 10 hours doing a super duper analysis, well then he's not a man???? And what does any of this have to do with why so many of the Chinese posters here hate JVG with a passion? I mean, there's only one I've counted that likes him. ONE! Good bye, you are now on ignore for trying to derail this thread into something personal out of a simple observation and question.
It's obviously now that backpedaling and avoiding the tough questions is NewYorker's way of discussion. Let me tell you what, you have been stupid to make a r****ded statement. The more you try to defend yourself and dig yourself out of the hole, the deeper the hole you are digging for yourself. Be a man and admit that you were dumb to make a stupid assertion. Then move on. But it takes a man to admit his mistake. And now we all know you are not one. Nice to know you. You are now officially a coward in my book.
I know he is garbage because he has no sense of decency. He claims killing 20 milliosn innocent people did not count as war crimes. He made a thread on D&D board asking people to guess his ethnic background, and then lied about it and got caught. This guy doesn't back up his words. He says one thing and then he may tell you later he doesn't mean it and then later tell you he actually means it. You know what I mean?
Oh, you don't really care a statement/assertion that you have make. And you don't find it necessary to back up what you have said. I think we have a name for this kind of posters. And the name is a 'troll'. Right? I have asked you four simple questions. How many JVG-haters have you identified to be Chinese? How many JVG-haters on this board? How many Chinese posters on this board? What is your definition of 'so many'? So those are 50 millions questions to you? LOL. And it's going to take you 10 hours to analyse three numbers? ROFL. Is it your way to tell us that you are r****ded? And what does any of this have to do with why so many of the Chinese posters here hate JVG with a passion? I mean, there's only one I've counted that likes him. ONE! Well, then how many Chinese posters are JVG haters? I have ask you this question at least five times and you have avoided to answer it all the five times. Again, the discussion will go nowhere if you refused/avoided to answer the above four simple questions (which are the 50 millions questions in your eyes ). It's obviously now that backpedaling and avoiding the tough questions is your way of discussion. Let me tell you what, you have been stupid to make a r****ded statement. The more you try to defend yourself and dig yourself out of the hole, the deeper the hole you are digging for yourself. Be a man and admit that you were dumb to make a stupid assertion. Then move on. But it takes a man to admit his mistake. And now we all know you are not one. Nice to know you. You are now officially a coward in my book
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I wouldn't mind having Rudy back. Jeff has put some discipline in his players. Rudy would be perfect to motivate them.
The Rockets play three bad teams this week. Even if they "when" all those games it is *not* a great start, and does *not* increase Mr. Van Gundy's standing.
Rockets win the next three and improve to 9 and 4 and you're still not happy? What on earth is the deal? I don't know why so many people hate Van Gundy. I can understand the YOF hating him....but it seems there's all these guys who fell in love with VSPAN and Novak in the offseason and preseason and are taking their frustrations out on JVG for their lack of success/pt. Well, it's too bad, because there's so much whining going on here...man, people just love to b***** about anything don't they? You'd think people would be happy to have a healthy and winning team after last year.... NOOOOOOOOO. They have to be 9-1 or it's FIRE JVG!!!!
