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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Vengeance, Jul 6, 2001.

  1. Vengeance

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    Alright, I know there have been like 3 of these in the past 2 months, but I'm starting another one.

    I graduated from college in May. Bachelor's of Business Administration in Management Information Systems. I've been looking for a job off and on since January, but only really hardcore for about a month. I haven't gotten anything, not even a nibble. And I'm not being exclusive or anything. Heck, I'm looking in Dallas, Austin, Houston and San Antonio for almost any available position. But still, nothing. Less than nothing.

    I started out by doing the whole emailing resumes thing, and I'm on every job board you could find. From JobDirect.com, Dice.com, HotJobs.com, Monster, everything -- I have gotten nothing. I check each and every one of them daily, and I follow up on every single job that looks promising. I check the Chronicle daily, houstonemployment.com, houstonjobcentral.com, jobshouston.com, whatever. You name it, I'm on it.

    For a few weeks, I've been employing a new technique -- just walk into a company and ask for a job. So far, it's produced mediocre results. I did it during Spring Break, and it was GREAT! I got all kinds of positive response, but I couldn't follow up because I went to SA, and school exploded. So now I'm at it again, but it's not so fruitful anymore. I've been into dozens of buildings, given out many, many resumes, and talked to everyone I can find. I've even been kicked out of 2 buildings.

    So I guess this is partially just me venting and being very pissed off. I mean, I'm just so disappointed because I guess something must be wrong with my approach, or with me personally. I did almost everything right in school (I guess I could've gotten a 4.0, but that's about it). I have a great record, broad experience, loads of non-technical skills, and a nice group of tech skills as well. And still, nothing.

    I've had my resume checked by dozens of people (former HR directors, secretaries, etc.), and they have guided me to my current iteration, which I think is excellent. I've been to all of the major recruiters (Pro Staff, Hall Kinion, etc.) and they all tell me that they can't help me. I've gone to those crappy career fairs that the Chronicle puts out, and all my campus recruiting events. HECK, I EVEN WROTE TO THE CEOS OF IBM, MINUTE MAID, AND AMD!!

    I realize this is just something I've gotta deal with, but come on now . . . this is getting ridiculous. The number of people I've seen, the number of places I've been would at least warrent a "We don't want you" letter, and I've gotten only 2 (Imperial Sugar and AMD). And everyone I talk to says "Oh, you got a degree in a technical field, you'll get a job in no time" and then they proceed to tell me stories of their family members who got great jobs with big companies and are having a ball. And I just have to smile and say "well, I hope so" while I'm really thinking inside how I'd like to just stangle them and take their job.

    Well, I guess this is just a bunch of b****ing, but hey, if any of you have any ideas, any clues at all (and I'll move anywhere) I would LOVE your help.

    <a href="http://www.tapercities.com/Motown/vengeance/">This is an example of my resume</a>, although the real one I give out doesn't have a banner ad [​IMG] And I just added the "Other Skills" section, and I don't know if I like it or not.

    Anyhow, I know I'm not the only one here going through this. So, thanks for listening.

    Oh, and my dream job is this: Something where I can use my business skills and experience, and have to travel almost exclusively. Using my computing background and experience would be a plus as well. The job description of "Business Analyst" is one that fits my abilities very well. I'd prefer to be based in Houston, but I could go elsewhere, preferably in Texas though. I'd also like to work for a big company.

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  2. Kingrene

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    Why not apply to a pharmaceutical (sp?) company as a sales rep? Those companies are always looking for bright college grads. You will get to travel, and you will learn how to sell. You can hone your technical skills on your own time.

    If you can demonstrate success in sales via W-2s, and can also speak to techies in their language, there is huge money to be made as a sales engineer for big computer companies. Good luck.

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  3. red

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    i feel your pain. i graduated from ut last dec with a bs in molecular biology a minor in chemistry and a minor in japanese and i cant find work. looke for like 2 mmonths in austin and there was just **** research work that wouldnt go anywhere. so i worked as a valet to save money for a move to seattle. 3 days before i leave i get a call from a company i was trying hard to get a job with. but since i already had the wheels in motion there was nothing i could do. now here in seattle im waiting on a company that might produce something cause i have an inside source but so far a month and a half and nothing. so im thinking i might try and get a job at a sushi resturant being a sushi chef. college degrees arent what they used to be...

    good luck

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  4. Vengeance

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    Thing is, I really don't want to do sales.

    I'm awesome at it (in my experiences doing sales), but it's not something I'm too keen on. And my folks were not so happy about it when I brought it up.

    Now, sales where I don't have to go out and get the client are not so bad. If I can get a job where I have to go present the product, but not have to go get the client (i.e. cold calling, etc.) I'd probably be okay with. But I haven't found any of those jobs. There are TONS of sales positions though. If I wanted sales, I could've had a job a few months ago, but I don't think it's what I want to do.

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  5. Vengeance

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    Oh, red -- can you do medical stuff? I've seen tons of medical-type jobs in the paper here. I don't know if they're your thing or not, but I know that there's a huge market here for it.

    In my search, 3 things are most prominent right now:

    engineers -- they are in HUGE demand. Electrical Engineers esp., but Civil and Chemical are up there too. Mechanical Engineers are big, but not to the extent as the other 3.

    Sales -- I guess the jobs suck to the point where no one wants to be in it, so they all leave? Sales jobs are everywhere. Lots of cold calling -- not my bag.

    Medical Technician -- they tend to require experience and/or certification, but I've seen tons of Nursing, Technician jobs out there.

    The other one that's semi-big is programming. But I don't really have many programming skills, I don't enjoy it all that much, and I'm not very good at it either. HOWEVER, E-R diagrams, OOA, Database design -- I'm dynamite at those things.

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  6. Lynus302

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    I don't even know where to begin. My story is identical to that of Vengeance and I've gotten nowhere.

    I'm probably going into the Army (enlisted). With that, I'll get my loans paid off in three years, a cash bonus depending on my MOS (Military Occupational Specialty), guaranteed MOS of choice (i.e. if I want to do something computer-related, I'll get it), and guaranteed station of choice. With my college degree, I'll start off at E-4 pay-grade. I've always had the desire to serve, so this isn't a last-ditch effort or anything like that.

    I gave myself until the 4th of July to find a job (or at least a f*cking lead of some sort), or I was going to join, but some b**** named Allison came into town and forced me to postpone everything.

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  7. WickBrunson

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    Vengence,

    Sorry to hear about some of the difficulties you have encountered. Anyways, I saw your resume and I'd like to offer a small suggestion for you. I noticed that you have many solid computer skills listed in one section. I think that part looks great.

    However, you might want to consider devoting some portion of your resume to how you have used/applied the skills you listed. If you haven't had the opportunity to use many of those skills on the job, think about perhaps creating a 'Projects' heading in your resume to show some of the ways you have used those skills in a classroom setting.

    I'm saying all this because when I interviewed for full-time MIS positions in 99-00, the main thing my interviewer would question me about were specific instances in which I had applied certain computer and database skills in the past; having such examples listed explicitly on my resume helped a great deal.

    Again, I wish you the best of luck in your job search. Keep hanging in there, and something will turn up.


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  8. BrianKagy

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    ROFLMAO!!!!! Oh man, that is priceless!

    Vengeance, good luck with your job search. I really hope you find something that will be rewarding (financially and emotionally).
     
  9. Vengeance

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    Thanks BK!!

    You inspired me to make it my signature! [​IMG]

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  10. heypartner

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    I enlisted in the middle of my college education. As a graduate, you have an opportunity for Officer that I didn't.

    In my opinion, you should demand to talk to an officer recruiter before you make your decision. The NCO recruiters do not get credit for officer recruits, so they won't tell you about it. Trust me on that.

    <a href="http://www.goarmy.com/job/officer/ocsoptns.htm">Check out this recruiting site.</a>

    And email me if you want to talk to a Colonel in the Reserves about current opportunities.

    email me here if you want to.

    I think the only drawback may be that Officers don't really get to choose their speciality like the enlisted does. But I could definitely be wrong about that.



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  11. across110thstreet

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    I'm 23 and my career is one of the last things on my mind right now.
    i guess you could say i am sowing my oats.
    i moved to ny after h-town and austin thing got old. i've taken some film production classes and got involved in some student films, but i can't say i am concerned with my future. i am trying to make real connections with people through music and art, but i aint making sh#t for dough and i don't care. i work with kids year round and i struggle to pay my bills in New YOrk CIty. thats life

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  12. red

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    i finally got a interview next week at the company i want to work for. targeted genetics. i hope i dont f**k it up...yeah for me...

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  13. Vengeance

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    Congratulations red!!!

    Let us know how it goes.

    GOOD LUCK!!!!

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  14. Lynus302

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    Crispee--
    Officer candidates go through a normal recruiter in the Army. In the Marine Corps for example, they have separate recruiters for officer candidates.

    I have been talking to my recruiter for quite some time. I also went to a military boarding school, so I am familiar with military life. I've thought long and hard about going through OSC, but I've decided that it is much better (for me, anyway) to go enlisted. You get none of those benefits as an officer candidate. I'll choose my MOS by going enlisted, thus setting myself up for a great job upon getting out of the Army after 4 years. Should I decide to go career military (unlikely, but not out of the question), I'll go through OCS after my 4 years of enlisted duty is up.

    btw: I tried to email this to you, but the link to your email address is screwed up.

    Email me at Lynus302@yahoo.com if you'd like.

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    I also went to military boarding school (http://www.militaryschools411.com) in high school and it was a great experience. They help students to become more responsible, mature individuals. The ultimate goal of military boarding schools is to prepare you for a successful college experience and enjoy a good quality of life.
     
  16. Anas acuta

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    Sorry about your luck man. My girlfriend just graduated with her masters in May and is still looking. She has an interview lined up next week though.

    Keep your head up. A door will open soon.
     
  17. mrm32

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    This is a 10 year old thread...
     
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    Someone's trying to drum up some business...
     
  19. Remix

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    lol i wonder if Vengeance is still around. If you are could you provide a 10 year update? haha

    I'm going through the same situation, i even have the same degree and man its tough to find a job right now.
     
  20. IBTL

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    Or you can go in a time machine to 10 years later and tell us all what happened
     

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