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Is the Chinese economy about to implode?

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    They're destroying everyone else on EVs and robotics.
     
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    Shenzhen dethrones Shanghai, Beijing as China’s top industrial powerhouse
     
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    Shall we play a game of global thermonuclear war?

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    The city brings together hardware innovation, advanced manufacturing, software development, supply chain efficiency and
    entrepreneurial speed in a single ecosystem.


    These are precisely the conditions Physical AI requires. Unlike purely digital AI defined primarily by algorithms, Physical AI
    requires deep integration between models, sensors, actuators, chips, manufacturing capability and most importantly
    real-world deployment.
     
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    Those old heads are advanced.

     
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    striking the iron while it is hot !

    Chinese EV maker, BYD, recruits James Bond to launch its new
    long-range, 5-min charging luxury EV


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    China’s Goats in the Gobi Desert: A Solar-Powered Grazing Success

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    Sheep graze beneath solar panels at a photovoltaic park in the Talatan Gobi Desert in Gonghe county, Hainan Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture, northwest China's Qinghai Province.

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    The 2.2GW Talatan Solar Park is the second largest solar installation in the world. It also accidentally greened the desert.
    Before the panels arrived starting 2012, it was a barren landscape, 98.5% desert, and so windy the swept-up pebbles and sand threatened to ding the expensive equipment.

    Workers planted grass seeds to try and minimize the damage. What they didn’t expect was due to the panels buffering wind, gathering condensation and the runoff from washing the panels, the grass grew too tall and too well, threatening to shade out the sun.

    Enter the photovoltaic sheep!

    They now eat the grass and leave their droppings behind, further greening the solar park. As of 2022, 80% of the ground is
    covered by plants and there are 20,000 goats roaming the park and providing extra income for local herders.
     
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    many of the law makers subscribe to the narrative provided by Gordan Chang, who wrote this NYT best seller in 2000

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    in the book, the annointed Chinese expert (by US main stream media) concluded that, due to its huge debt, the "communistic" economy will collapse soon, in 10 years tops,

     
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    at the time of this best seller, a freshman in Harvard vowed to counter Chang's convenient false narrative, force-fitting China's economy into a pre-conceived notion.

    she went on the earn her BA / MA / PhD in Economics from Harvard, then becoming a professor in Economics in the London School of Economics.



    She has work hard to counter Chang's convenient claim, including

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    What the West gets wrong about China


    China's economy has been transforming in ways that western publics / so-called Chinese experts,
    such as Gordon Chang, have failed to understand.

     
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    Hes like the american golden boy for china topics right? lol...i remember back in the early 2000s, every news agency, including nz news was reporting/quoting based on this dumbass. the stuff that comes out of his mouth is just crazy. Didn't he say the guy trying to assassinate trump was chinese also?

    Im pretty sure CCP ****ed his mum and had him, maybe thats why he is holding a grudge on the father that didn't want him?
     
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    For thirty years, Gordan Chang delivered predictions with the confidence of a surgeon and the accuracy of a malfunctioning slot machine.
    His central claim, repeated like scripture, warned that China would suffer catastrophic collapse within five years.

    Five years always became five more. Then five more after that. He built a career on an expiration date that kept expiring.

    The man behaves like a malfunctioning GPS. Each missed turn forces a recalculation, except that the recalculation never leads
    anywhere near the truth.

     
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    Annointed as a China expert, by Fox News / NewsMax, et al, Gordan Chang’s predictions of China’s collapse destroy his own credibility



    Over the pasr 4+ decades, people all over the world have witnessed Chinese economic developments---including exports, global supply chains, housing prices, stock markt, investment and debt---yet Chang dares to predict that the Chinese economy will collapse. Such a prognosis has surprised professional analysis organizations, who have no idea if Chang has some secret in his hand that nobody else knows.

    Every five years, the US National Intelligence Council (NIC) makes such a prediction over global trend for the next 20 years. It requires substantial quantities of manpower, resources, professional analysis, and discussions among projects and organizations from both at home and abroad. A conclusion is carefully drawn only after opinions from each side are well received and heard. But in many reports made by the NIC, there was never the conclusion that the collapse of Chinese economy would arrive in the next 20 years, let along in the coming year.

    Chang has made predictions repeatedly and than failed time and again. That is because he has either disguised his true intentions or made the analysis based on a disordered mentality.

    China's economy is under the pressure of a downturn, its government has also set 6.5 % growth as the new floor in the next five-year-plan. However, it is still a very considerable speed for a major economy, and is expected to be three times as fast as expected US economy growth.

    Although China's economic growth is experiencing a downturn, it is still growing much faster than the US. Interpreting the downturn as possible collapse is the reason why Chang's forecasts have all failed.



    If Chang's logic works, the economy in quite a few countries, including the US, should have crumbled long ago.
     

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