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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaBeard, Jul 1, 2026 at 10:04 PM.

  1. kjayp

    kjayp Member

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    LeBron is going to choose his destination...
    and GSW is trying to get AD but Wash wont let go...
    look at the return for Giannis...
    heck, the bloated contract corpse of PG provided a return...
    I think we could easily get 2 frps for KD and his 45m/yr contract... but id rather compete...

    For years all i heard about on CF was how u had to have at least a couple superstars to compete - back during the Scola 'treadmill of mediocrity' years (which i fully appreciated even if we werent contenders....) ...now people complain that none of the picks we tanked for are superstars - but they dont want to take minutes away from them... and they dont want aging stars...

    I'm just trying to understand the temperament...

    Is it be mediocre (.500) with heavy minutes for all of our "non-superstar draft picks" and wait for a future draft pick that will be a superstar?

    What is your path to contention?
     
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    Dude, to be fair, I have successfully turned into a Draft enthuasist....even if rebuilds do not work out.

    I might be biased and looking thru glasses of younger players. I admit that gladly. Even if I was not, entertaining a 38 year old, is not fun.

     
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    Can Murphy create his own shot or create for others? I honestly don’t really recall him doing that a whole lot.
     
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    I think it's a bit much to treat these seasons as significantly different because of 1.1%.

    Reed played 82 games, took 7.0 threes per night and made 227 for the season.

    Korver played 82 games, took 6.8 threes per night and made 226 for the season.

    Exactly how close would you need them to be in order to consider them comparable?

    But setting the Korver comparison aside and just comparing Reed to his contemporaries, he was absolutely an "elite shooter" this season. There were only 7 players in the entire league who both shot as many or more threes and made them at a higher percentage than Reed. Of those 7, no one took as many deep threes as Reed* (130 attempts from 28+ feet), and only Collin Gillespie was even in the same ballpark with 106 attempts. Next closest was AJ Green with just 62.

    There's significant value in being a threat from that distance which doesn't show up in raw percentages.

    *This does not include Steph, who is absurd and shot 141 threes from 28+ feet in just 43 games
     
  5. daywalker02

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    Well, yeah, that was the past.....welcome to the future.

    Mediocrity now is rewarded.......I think Play In teams and teams close to the Play In have the best Odds at the Top 4 Pick.....Crazy yes.....


     
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    Here is how the number of balls is decided:
    • 3 Balls: Given to the teams with the 4th through 10th worst records in the league. These teams get the best odds (about 8.1% chance) at the No. 1 pick. [1, 2]
    • 2 Balls: Given to the "relegated" bottom three teams, as well as the No. 9 and No. 10 play-in tournament seeds. The bottom three teams are penalized for having the worst records by losing one of their potential balls, and their draft pick can fall no lower than 12th overall. [1, 2]
    • 1 Ball: Given to the losers of the 7-8 play-in games
    i actually didnt know the breakdown... so i looked it up...
    so 4-10 have best odds...
    i guess it challenges teams to stay out of the bottom 3...
     
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    Yes unfortunately Reed is 61'.75 with Trex arms. In retrospect should never have been 3rd pick given his physicals but it is what it is.
     
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    With the two picks given the odds I think its around 70% the Rockets will get a lotto pick next year.
     
  10. daywalker02

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    Okay, however they spin it, 'below average teams' but 'better than the worst teams'.

    5.4% at No.1 would still be better than nothing........
    Good thing Wizards drafted Dybantsa with the old odds.

     
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    His height is also artificially buoyed by his huge head and long neck. He plays much smaller than that
     
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    Shoulda found a way into one of the best point guard drafts in years.
     
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    The Rockets Front Office making bad decisions on Fred VanVleet medical before signing him years before the FA deal years ago. It really came back like bad karma.
     
  14. Dobbizzle

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    All of that rant and you're still denying basic basketball reality. 1% is a big gap in shooting percentages, a 40% shooter is much more rare than a 39%
     
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    Korver definitely wasn't launching from 28+ often. That is a unique skill. There's plenty to critique Reed about, but the shooting really isn't one of them. He has the potential to be an elite shooter.
     
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    Taking everything with a grain of salt. No idea how he will perform until he's on the actual court. Fred has never been a great point guard however, he has been consistently steady. He's not good at anything but shooting threes when it comes to scoring. Often misses lay ups and fails miserably on drives. I will commend his willingness to take the midrange jumper, but I don't know the percentages of that off the top of my head.

    With that all being said he has always had a great assist/turnover ratio and the Rockets definitely missed that. I think at this point, injury speculation included, he is nothing more than a solid backup point guard to have. I don't trust him as a starter, and he isn't worth the contract he has. If an opportunity to upgrade at point guard is there then I think Houston should do it if they wish to contend with Kevin Durant. I think him playing with Durant will definitely mask a lot of his flaws though. As a point guard, it is really hard to look bad next to Durant. Just gotta know how to dribble, pass, and make an open shot. Shouldn't be too hard, ...right?
     
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    1 percent is 2-3 3s total on the entire season. Wtf are you talking about...big difference? gtfo
     
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    No it isn't, you just don't understand math I'm afraid. If Reed hit 3 more 3's last season his percentage would improve to 39.9% He still wouldn't be in the elite 40%+ club. Reed's baseline was also 33% Korver's was already 39% in his first season. Once again, the Redick comparison is far closer than the Korver comparison.
     
  19. dfbreyes

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    Trade Kevin Durant first before Fred V
     
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    So you’re saying he was 4 made threes in the entire season away from being “elite” and this is the hair-splitting dumbass hill you’re willing to die on.

    What a joke.
     
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