RedNationBlogga sources: Rockets actively shopping FVV say his knee is done

He is neither. He is a tweener. Reed's ceiling is Kyle Korver good shooter off the bench (zone buster).

 

Though I will say, I do wish he'd simply put the phone down for a week or two and let it all die down. Similar to JB in Boston, control what you can control regarding that cycle.

 

Reed is a much better playmaker and defender than Korver to be fair (using his current trajectory, not saying he is a better defender today than Korver was in his prime. Korver had no discernible defensive talent whatsoever).

 

Not sure if true but if its real then the Smart signing and drafting of Thornton and Copeland makes even more sense.

Thornton is not some wet behind ears rookie, he has had 4 yrs of real college experience he can make an instant impact.

Why we chose Smart over Luke Kennard is for reasons like these.

 

lol dumb take

 

if its true it does, but doesn't excuse the absolute **** job last season and trying to run it back with FVV

This whole abomination of a product should have been torn down

 

I think the People who try to say he's a SG simply don't know what a PG is due to years of combo guards and short wings mudding up the picture.

Many seem to think a PG is a ball dominant wing and that's never been what the position is.

Kobe Bryant was not a PG, he wasn't even a combo guard, but that's pretty much what some view as a PG these days for whatever reason.

 

Why would you tear it down? Rockets had a 15-3 record without FVV before injuries hit and Adams missed the entire season. After Adams went down thats 37M injuries+12M from DFS who had been a flop so thats way too much injured salary to compete. 49M thats like a max contract already bro.

They werent trying to run it back for FVV they didnt just get a rental knowing it would cost assets and they would lose that guy in UFA this season. As Stone himself said last year wasnt our year just like Pacers so instead of a band aid he went to see if Reed or Amen can be the pg. I guess for now the answer is No thats why we got smart and 2 pgs in the draft.

Its just smart asset mgt and having more than 1 season outlook but of course CF lost its mind cuz they want Morey style of always dumping assets left and right and going all in every season while burning everything to the ground.

 

Respectfully, IMO this is sort of how it goes. The business of basketball dictates that when a player of Fred's status in the league is not extended and shifts from "indispensable player who we want to be here long term" to "expiring contract trade chip", it rarely goes down easy.

Yes, "getting comfortable being uncomfortable" is real. But AFAIK all the notable "comfortable being uncomfortable" situations have ended with the player departing, usually via trade. The comfort and decorum is about managing the experience and maintaining leverage until a trade happens (which could be many months or the trade deadline of course).

 

Usually that's true, but I think this is a very unique case because of the confluence of the contract year and a major injury.

I do think there is a very real possibility that this is still a long-term partnership.

 

Trey Murphy ain’t worth multiple FRP’s even with protections. He’s not even a second option.

 

That's fair, although tbh it is hard to discount the existence of a possibility -- every situation is different and it's a human business. Certainly the possibility is real, I agree.

But from an external perspective, the track record of these contract situations in the NBA has had pretty strong predictive value. And in most of those situations, similar sentiments ("still see a road to a future with the player"; "still believe he'll be an important contributor to the team"; "can't discount the possibility he'll be back etc."; "he's going to be all in like usual once training camp starts") were messaged externally by the team and/or player at the time. But the outcome is usually the outcome all the same.

 

On the flipside, Korver was actually the generational shooter people pretend Reed is. Reed's got some distance before he gets to those heights on 3's. In truth the Redick comparison is way closer, and even then it's not close because Reed's a very different player than both.

 

I just picked a random off the bench 3 pt shooter. Make it Korver or host of other guys that have only the one skill.

 

Sure, but:

A) Most of those are due to uncertainty related to basketball reasons, not injury; and
B) I still think a lot of people are mistakenly conflating frustration with fans with frustration with the org.

 

Well, at this point might as well capitalize on the savings next off-season and actually go after a real point guard instead of all these band aids. Hell, I'd love to see a legit shooting guard.

 

I wasnt for trading fred at that point, but a lot of people were.

Quite a few wanted him moved with or instead of Jalen.

People forget, other than that playoff series Fred was coming off a pretty bad year offensively.

 

Does FVV have a no trade physical clause in his contract?

 

I read the no-trade clause is nullified by the opt-in?

 

Reed has virtually identical 3pt shooting in year 2 to year 2 Kyle Korver… Reed had a few more attempts korver had very slightly better %

and this is without any competent play calling to get the ball in position a to take advantage of his skill set

no idea what playcalling was going on for korver
at the time, but that’s at least one thing we know Reed is dealing with