You can ask all the stupid, silly, condescending questions you want, but answer this one first..... Why not put a struggling player in the best position that he has already shown? It wouldn't matter if he was good ONE game doing something. Why would you not try it again? Why keep doing same thing that isn't working? Let's keep putting a player in a worse position, lose games, then trade prospects for better hopes. 7th is cool. The main point is not-8th. Well, Brice sucks at home. You already know that. No need for two 9th's at Daikin. You already knew that.
You didn't realize the last words ruined your whole point. Hilarious Jake batted 2nd when Yordan was out or injured. Meyers with Yordan's protection might produce similarly or better. The stats say Astros offense would be better Jake 2nd than 8th, that's for sure. Lineup extended Why posters are fighting against trying something that has worked before, while wanting to continue something that hasn't, has Candid Camera written all over it.
No dog in this dust up but, didn't Jeremy Pena start performing better when he got moved to the leadoff spot?
No one on here is a clown They are just passionate And see things differently. We are all rooting for the same team. Just different minds thinking of ways to make them More AWESOMER!!
Seeing things differently is one thing. Mocking facts because they don't fit your narrative is childish and insane.
I don’t think you understand how statistics work. You think you’ve determined something so smart by taking 30 seconds to look at a baseball reference page yet somehow think guys being paid to analyze this stuff daily and find meaningful edges haven’t figured it out? FYI for his career, a much larger sample size, he’s hit in the 8th spot of the lineup more than any other position. His OPS in that slot? .675. His OPS for his career? .670. How’s that for “facts”… If you hit him in the 9th hole every game the rest of his career I can absolutely assure you that he will be around a .670 OPS.
Says the guy who complains about Abreu sightings. Just sit back, and let the smart guys analyze. Analysts don't ignore the recency of the past 1 1/2 season's of history, especially contract time. Nothing is guaranteed. Jake's batting not-8th could be a disaster -- but what we definitely know is the past 1 1/2 seasons of data.. For whatever reason, Joe and some posters are fighting their own best interest.
Brother he has 17 plate appearances this season batting 9th and it’s a .669 OPS. He had 50 plate appearances last season batting 9th. You can’t be serious right now. Edit: I’ll tell you where he belongs though…and that’s the bench
Right, on the bench replaced by who ?? Anyone who suggests it's ludicrous to try batting Jake where he's been most successful the last 1 1/2 seasons is trolling. The troll job is so strong you had to switch topics by introducing "not batting him at all". The obvious assumption is that he's in the lineup. Don't change the options. The issue is not-8th vs 8th. Stick to the topic. Look how disingenuous. He posts Jake's OPS this season at 9th, but doesn't post 8th. Why not post 8th ??? Because production at 8th is so much lower, it would destroy his argument. Then he reduces last season to *only* ABs after posting OPS in the previous sentence... LOL He knows Jake's lofty OPS would defeat his argument. He also knows Jake has batted better almost anywhere not-8th. That's my argument...... Not-8th. STOP BATTING MEYERS EIGHTH Yet he and another guy think it's silly to try Jake not-8th. HtrollStros You guys are absurd on this one.
I literally gave you his career statistics proving he has actually hit BETTER in the 8th spot than the other spots combined in his career and yet you are drawing some conclusion off a much smaller sample. And you’re calling me absurd, a clown, insane, etc. If you’ve noticed, there are multiple other people laughing at you so it’s not just me. Stick to posting gifs and photos, that’s what you’re good at.
He's actually been considerably better in the 8th spot in his career compared to leadoff. I guess we should move him there.
When you complained about Abreu, you weren't worried his career numbers. Now, the switch. Multiple posters laughing. The same guy who constantly says, "I don't care what other people think"... is now caring about other people's thoughts. The per usual switch based on convenience. Same pattern you've shown with Abreu and Meyers.
Because randomness is a dumb reason to do anything. In small sample sizes, Jake Meyers hasn't shown anything. If one random flyball in the 9 spot had carried a little further, his numbers would be completely different. It's the same reason you don't bench a guy because he sucks for a week. Everything in baseball in small sample sizes is meaningless. Conflating correlation and causation leads to awful decision making.
As I said a million times about Abreu, the guy has lost 2 mph off his FB velocity and it hasn't improved. There's clearly something not right with the guy - this has nothing to do with a discussion about the randomness of the stats batting 8th vs 9th. Doesn't matter what I or anyone else tells you though, you clearly aren't going to change your stance here so no point in continuing this conversation. As Kemah said earlier, I respect your fanhood and we all just want to see the Astros win...I'll leave it at that.
One and a half years isn't random. But go ahead.... And that's another reason why you and Htroll are so disingenuous. You used the word "dumb". You might can disagree whether it will work, but going extreme by saying dumb is dumb. I'm not arguing anything ludicrous. Trying a player 8th vs 9th is NOT ludicrous -- and that's before knowing the past 1 year and a half of results. That's how silly you guys' argument is.
Yes, it is. Its 60 at bats or so in the 9 spot and less than 100 in the 8 spot. That's 2 weeks / 1 month worth of play. It's completely and utterly meaningless. Just look any player's monthly stats over a season - they get about 100 at bats per month and their stats vary widely. And no one thinks "hitter X can't hit in May!" as a result of a bad May. Spreading those stats over 1.5 years is even worse because it incorporates even more randomness of time - Jake may just have had a really bad week one week when he happened to be in the 9 spot and you're trying to make competitive decisions based on that. Any GM or manager would be fired immediately if they even thought about doing that. You simply don't understand basic math and statistics and are trying to create meaning where there is none.
Except certain things ARE dumb. If you flip a coin 4 times and it comes up heads, and you decide "hey, let's make a strategic decision based on the fact that this coin is likely to flip heads again", you are, objectively, dumb.
