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Mamdani. Great day for NYC and the USA

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Nov 5, 2025.

  1. glynch

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    lol "fine" means rich or at least upper middle class
     
  2. DonnyMost

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    I really can't believe these people are once again stepping on the rake that is rent control.

    This **** is anti-helpful. Just stop.
     
  3. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Get out of NYC while you can. It’s rapidly going to devolve and will not be a safe place to live.

     
  4. glynch

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    Nothing new here. Play the race/anti-immigrant card to make the poor little conquistadors content with the status quo of the USA for the wealth few.
     
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    StupidMoniker I lost a bet
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    The goal isn't to make people content, it is to rile them to action (and possible violence). It shouldn't matter at all where the occupants were born. What should matter is that rent control is a terrible idea, it doesn't work anywhere it is tried, and it has the opposite effect of its intention (like most socialist ideas). The cities where average rent drops are those that have permissive building and free market rents. Making it an issue of race/national origin is a way to keep the debate between Republicans and Democrats (ideological capture). The libertarian position is the one that obviously works and has nothing to do with race. It is also the opposite of what @glynch supports, because it isn't based on communist nonsense.
     
  6. TheRealist137

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    I don't like the concept of rent control either, but you are guilty of doing the same thing you accuse republicans and democrats of doing. Conflating rent control with rent stabilization, and then saying stabilization is a communist or socialist concept.

    Neither are actually correct. You should learn about nuance.
     
  7. StupidMoniker

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    Rent stabilization, rent control, and rent freezing are all the same concept in kind, if different in degree (and often interchangeable both rhetorically and in effect). All of them are schemes to subvert a free rental market. A rent freeze is keeping rent the same for some period of time (which could be forever or a week or any other time period), and rent control is putting a cap on rent (which could be the current rent, and could also be for some period of time, making it identical to a rent freeze in that instance), and rent stabilization is some rule controlling the amount that rent can be raised on a property in a given period (which could be zero, and the period could be any period) which could once again (depending on the specifics) be exactly the same as rent control and rent freezing.

    Clearly, I am not doing the same thing I am accusing Republicans and Democrats of doing, because I am not mentioning the identity of the tenants at all (where I was accusing the Republicans and Democrats of making the debate about the race/national origin of the tenants). I am talking purely about the economics of the concept of rent control (and since you chose to bring it up as an important distinction, rent freezing and rent stabilization). These are socialist/communist concepts (the supremacy of the proletariat, control of the "means of production" by the body politic, etc.). The demonization of landlords is central to the communist ideal. Free markets are antithetical to socialism/communism, especially in the context of housing. The labor theory of value (which is central to Marxism) holds that rent is the appropriation of surplus value by the landlord, the very thing against which communism stands opposed.

    In conclusion, all of the various intrusions on an open rental market (stabilization, control, freezing) are rooted in communism/socialism and are based on the idea that someone besides the owner of property has a say in what to do with said property (in this case, at what value to rent it out).
     
  8. El_Conquistador

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    Mamdani is too young and dumb to realize the harm he is causing to long term real estate development. Housing shortages and HIGHER rents will be the predictable result. History has taught us. Most of Mamdani's voting coalition is comprised of foreign-born voters and young and inexperienced people with little responsibility in their lives.



    Texas and Florida will benefit from NYC's implosion.


    GOOD DAY
     
  9. astros123

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    Your cult hero isn't signing a housing bill that the congress overwhelmingly passed. He also claimed he doesn't care about housing costs and wants to protect landlords
     
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    "it will not be a safe city to live" lol this dumbass has been saying this for the past 10 pages yet evidence shows it's safer than ever before. Same Ole garbage fear mongering by the low iq cult

    Low iq brainwashed by Fox News

     
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  11. El_Conquistador

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    The statistics coming out of Mamdanistan mean nothing to me -- I wouldn't trust them at all. But I will say that ICE's deportations of criminals has had a positive effect on crime in NYC.

    Job creators are moving out of the city. Headquarters are relocating. Real estate developers (people who build housing units and increase supply... thereby lowering rents...) are being punished and stripped of incentives... taxes are going up... crime will be less severely punished... and welfare and subsidies to foreign-born citizens (mainly Muslims) and illegals are skyrocketing... Economic devastation is the predictable future result. They can live OK in the short term off the economy that others built... but eventually their policies will catch up to them. And NYC will look more like Karachi.

    [​IMG]

    GOOD DAY
     
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    "the statistics coming out mean nothing to me" lol of course they don't cuz you're a brainwashed dumbass who lives in a alternate reality. The idea that the right wing police union would rig the stats to help mamdani is so hilarious.

    The facts are your dumbass has been telling people NYC was going to explode with crime for the duration of this thread while the polar opposite has happened. You are a brainwashed cultist who has been wrong about everything
     
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  13. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Anytime you must resort to insults, I win. It means you have lost emotional control due to building frustration... primarily due to an inability to counter my points. So the insults flow. It's the approach of a child, but also some unstable adults. I have no such affliction, which is why I've never lost a debate.

    Victory is sweet and delicious!


    GOOD DAY
     
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    You deserve to be insulted for being a dumbass who's been wrong about everything. You claimed multiple times in this thread crime would explode in NYC when the polar opposite has happened. NYC is safer now than ever before. Facts don't care for your dumbass propaganda.

    You have been wrong about everything yet run around pretending you have a working brain.
     
  15. El_Conquistador

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    LOL, no it's definitely not. Let's pretend for a minute that Mamdanistan is reporting accurate figures. The headline reads "Fewest homicide ever reported during the first five months of a year, according to new statistics." Somehow you twist that short sample size, the new statistics, and the reporting rate to conclude that it's never been safer? Amigo, we are laughing at how poor you reason. So many holes in the headline that you could drive a camión through it!

    I win again... and expose @astros123 for being an emotional fool! Clean win -- and I smell good doing it!


    GOOD DAY
     
  16. astros123

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    Mamdani does not control the release of crime stats. Jessics tisch who's the Eric Adam's appointed police commissioner overlooks it. Your cult hero Trump praised her and said she was a excellent commissioner.



    NYC is safer today than it was when Mamdani took office.
     
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    If within his power and given the blessing of the governor & NY assembly Mamdani should require Quran verses be read in NYC schools if for nothing else but to counter the GOP and force the courts to act quicker.

    I'm so sick of these fake Christians parading around like they care about anything else but control of the populace. Something has to give one way or another...
     
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  18. El_Conquistador

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    Lookie here folks, @astros123 has already downgraded his absurd statement from "NYC is its safest ever" to now only claiming NYC is "safter today than when Mamdani took office". Both are untrue, but we are making progress with him!

    His statement is a de facto concession. Therefore I win the debate.


    GOOD DAY
     
  19. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Bruce Thornton Only Fan
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    It's remarkable how shameless these dumbasses @Os Trigonum @El_Conquistador are. They went from claiming crime would skyrocket under mamdani to now claiming the stats are fake even though the Trump endorsed police chief is overlooking it. The only thing these cultists know how to do is fear monger to low iq individuals who believe it
     
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