Buddy… when it’s just you and Spaceghost in disbelief, I think that’s an indication that a little self reflection might be in order. You can be incredibly thoughtful and intelligent on nearly every issue but for some reason you have an oddly bizarre loyalty to Putin and nostalgia for the Soviet Union glory days that I’ll never understand. Ukraine didn’t get rolled over like you predicted. It wasn’t imminent that Russia would take over therefore it was deplorable that people like me dare support the right for countries to be able to defend themselves against invading tyrants. You’ve gaslit us for years on the stupid war of choice by Putin. Give it the fck up.
Mr "I Can End This War in 24 hours" has finally gotten around to understanding the "situation" ... Trump, in major shift, suggests Ukraine can win back territory long held by Russia President Trump on Tuesday shifted his position on whether Ukraine should hold out for all the territory seized by Russia, saying on social media that he thinks Ukraine is in a position to win it all back. It’s a reversal from his long-held position that Kyiv would need to give up some of its territory to Moscow to end the war – such as Crimea, which Russia annexed in 2014. But now, “after getting to know and fully understand the Ukraine/Russia Military and Economic situation,” Trump said he believes Ukraine – backed by the European Union and NATO – can win back all its territory. “Why not?” he said in a post after he met Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly, even suggesting that Ukraine could “maybe even go further than that!” The reversal is the latest example of how Trump has swung between deference, frustration and indirect threats against Russia. Early in his second term, Trump boasted that his close relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin would help him broker a quick resolution to the conflict. https://www.opb.org/article/2025/09/24/trump-shifts-position-on-ukrainian-territory-held-by-russia
U.S. State Department says Ukraine currently winning war The U.S. Department of State believes that Ukraine is currently winning the war against Russia. This was stated by U.S. under Secretary of State for Foreign Assistance, Humanitarian Affairs, and Religious Freedom Jeremy Lewin during the YES Dinner Discussion ahead of the Ukraine Recovery Conference (URC 2026), an Ukrinform correspondent reports. “We do have a moment right now where Ukraine is winning the war,” he noted, highlighting how much Kyiv is doing to adapt to the next phase of the conflict. https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-po...ing-war-us-under-secretary-of-state-says.html
Amazing how the war mongers disregard an entire generation of men being wiped out, along with significant portion of infrastructure as 'winning'.
Yeah, except Im not claiming Russia is winning or will be the winner. As I stated many times, most of you all view life as a zero sum game. Being 1 pt better than Republicans doesn't make you a winner. Winning an election doesn't make you morally superior. Both parties are absolutely despicable and anyone who continues to pretend one party is morally superior than the other are garbage humans. Your narrow mind doesn't understand that both Ukraine and Russia have lost. The real winner is the United States. And I really do not expect you to understand how wrong this is.
What I posted was: U.S. State Department says Ukraine currently winning war The US State Department rarely says anything this precise or un-diplomatic (versus choosing to not step on anyone's toes). I do not know who is winning the war. Both sides (Ukraine and Russia) tell their version of the truth. IMO, the world would be in a better place if this war stops. I agree with you. Both Russia and Ukraine have suffered major losses from this war. You are correct. I do not understand how the US is the real "winner" in this war. We have spent gold but not blood.
Ukrainian troops raise flag on Kinburn Spit in Mykolaiv Oblast held by Russian forces since 2022, military says https://kyivindependent.com/ukraini...d-by-russian-forces-since-2022-military-says/
We have first hand knowledge on how to engage in advanced warfare w/out the loss of American lives. We have not spent gold - we have spent fiat. Putin foolishly believe America was over leveraged and that his oil supply could out last the petro dollar, thus hurting American economics over the long run. Yes, the petro dollar is now broken. And with that, the heavy handed might of the United States. This is good news and very bad news. The good news is that more and more countries will have more flexibility to do what is in their best interest w/out the need to kiss the ring of the United States. The bad news is that more and more countries will be able to operate like Iran. New factions coupled with incompetence will lead to more serious and bloody conflicts like Ukraine. Effective wars can be fought w/out the need of $100m aircraft and advanced $5m missiles.
Not really. I am just a fan of peace and think virtually all wars are ultimately not worth it. I had a conversation with a right wing Vietnamese guy incensed over my Bernie bumpersticker claiming Bernie is a Communist. The only thing we could agree with on was that the Vietnam War was not worth the couple of million deaths. I could play equally extreme and say you hate Putin and Russia and love Zelenski and Ukraine so much you are willing to support the Ukrainians fighting to the last man or woman or fight or at least greatly risk a nuclear war over it. Or you hate Xi and China so much you would fight or risk nuclear war over Taiwan. Equally stupid in my estimation is the abstract simplistic: No matter how much NATO or Ukraine provoked the Russians, and especially the Russian ethnics in the Ukraine border region with Russia, it is Russia that crossed the Ukraine border. This is a violation of international law,!! (lol the US and international law!) and therefore there should be no negotiations whatsoever over semi-autonomy for the Russian speakers on the Ukraine Russian border etc. and the absoluteness righteousness make it is worth millions of Ukraine and Russian deaths and I suppose nuclear war. Right is right, no matter the price!
Agreed, Space Ghost, on this issue, though we see it somewhat differently. Again, I say to the usual war supporters, I reserve judgement on who is winning the Ukraine War as I don't trust the US government on reports of how we are winning wars we support. Realistically I suppose it is remotely possible they and their military industrialists funders could be correct for once. My question is how can you all be so so trusting that we are winning after our wars from Vietnam to the present -- even if you hate Putin and believe he is the latest new Hitler? BTW let's assume Europe is temporarily winning as they send missiles and drones to Ukraine to attack say Moscow. If Russia decides to attack the European factories making these weapons, are you up for WW III, whether nuclear of non-nuclear? Are you willing to go down and enlist or have your kids enlist. I note that Europe is talking about deporting the several hundred thousand Ukrainians living in Europe and refusing fight in the war. If the newest Hitler i.e Putin and the evil Ruskies are bent on driving to the English Channel why has Europe never seriously discussed sending troops to help out the Ukrainians?
I always thought we should have supported Ukraine as long as it didn't require sending soldiers to fight. They are an ally, and Russia has been trying to F us since WW2. I knew that if Russia didn't figure out a way to get what they wanted within the first few months of the war, then it would end up a quagmire. Russia couldn't even take over Afghanistan. The question is whether Putin's ego will allow him to call it quits. I doubt he will anytime soon.
You've been wrong about this war the whole time and your only defense is to call those that wanted to help Ukraine financially war mongers. Russia is the evil war monger. Those that supported aid to Ukraine are realists who could see that they had a right to defend themselves and helping them would weaken a powerful, immoral country and bring a quicker end to the war.
There is no "WE" here. This is Ukraine's war of survival, and they've survived for 4+ years since Russia's full-scale invasion in 2022. I call that winning, in my book. "WE" support Ukraine because they are the victim of an aggressor who started this war. Some people, like @Space Ghost, are anti-Ukraine winning and said they couldn't win at all. They've been proven wrong. And, as usual, they've moved the goalposts ... to "i can't believe all of you war mongers like killing all these innocent young men," just like they did when arguing against the Allies pushing back the Nazis and defeating them, claiming there were too many casualties. That's not how it works. Sometimes you need to stand up to an aggressor and protect yourself. No one likes war, but we can clearly see right from wrong, good from bad. Putin is the aggressor. Ukraine is defending itself, and we should all hope they eventually push Russia out and end this war. Russia is in no position to attack anyone else at this point.
How Ukraine’s Drone Innovation Reversed Russia’s Momentum | Council on Foreign Relations June 12, 2026 Ukrainian innovation has led to territorial gains on the battlefield. In large part due to the scaling up of drone operations, Ukraine was able to retake seventy-eight square miles over five days in February 2026 and has continued making gains throughout its fifth spring offensive. Now, compared to the start of the war, Ukrainian drones are able to strike at longer ranges, including thirty to one hundred kilometers behind the front lines, expanding the kill zone and forcing Russia to divert resources to protect its supply lines and infrastructure. This reverses a trend of Russian gains throughout 2025 that had many analysts worried about Ukraine’s capacity to continue fighting. Russia continues offensive pressure in the east and Zaporizhzhia region, but the front remains fluid. Precise mass systems at scale, both in the air and at sea, have been a key driver of recent headway. Even with its society on a wartime footing, Ukraine cannot match Russia’s conventional arms or manpower. Defense innovation remains essential to Ukraine’s asymmetric strategy and operational successes. ...
You're right, except you're not. The only incorrect prediction to date is Ukraines ability to sustain their attrition rates. @glynch is correct - I do not trust any government's account of progress and accomplishments. There has never been a war where the leaders of either side openly express a losing narrative. That is just ignorant to think otherwise. I will correct your incorrect assumptions on my view (which matters nothing in the grand scheme). I never once pretended Putin was the good guy or a victim. I just don't sit around in a pity party saying "well this war would just end if Putin would go home". Stating the blatant obvious is a toddlers mindset. I also never stated Ukraine doesn't have a right to defend themselves. What I have stated is that Ukraine is not a NATO ally, so therefore we are not obligated to assist them. In conjunction with that thought, I stated (again, let me repeat, Ukraine is not a NATO ally) Ukraine should have negotiated more with Russia to prevent the war in the first place. Instead, you people fell for the propaganda Russia would steam roll Europe if the west did not fight this proxy war. I can't express how STUPID of a take this is. I was perfectly fine with Russia have a much bigger influence in Ukraine if it prevented the war in the first place. You war mongers disagreed and feel like the millions of deaths are worth it. Further, you sit on a moral high horse and deem Russia as an "immoral country". Do you really think Trump represents every American and American values? Then why would you believe Putin represents every Russian? You have zero compassion for people you deem beneath you. I have little doubt you celebrate Russian deaths, with zero understanding what motivates an individual to fight a war. So while many of these people give their life to feed their families, even for a bad cause, I hope you continue to edify yourself on your moral high horse while you safely sit in your little mini mansion gorging yourself on doordashed Chipotle b****ing and moaning about billionaires because you don't have access to the finest things in life.
