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2025 Hypothetical Astros Trades Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 9, 2025.

  1. Fulgore

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    They need 3 outfield bats. Maybe the worst offensive outfield in baseball
     
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  2. sealclubber1016

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    Jake Meyers has a career .671 OPS, Cam Smith has a .665 OPS, both are great defensive players

    Jo Adell has a .691 OPS, Mickey Moniak had a .673 OPS prior to joining the Rockies and has a .703 OPS away from Coors. Both are bad defensive players. I don't see how those 2 move the meter in the slightest much less provide "huge improvement". I'll take my chances on Myers glove and the likelihood that he will return to an average level of offensive suckiness by seasons end. If the Astros insist on trying to win, then try to win. Don't shuffle the scrub deck chairs.

    Nootbaar I'm OK with targeting because he's actually been a consistently solid bat in his career, has a good glove and could work in a platoon. Meyers and Cam have both been fine vs. LHP for their careers.
     
  3. Buck Turgidson

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    ^^^ this guy gets it

    I was just responding to your question: Would Teng or Burrows bring back Nootbar?

    The answer is "no". The question is moot.
     
  4. Snake Diggit

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    Adell doesn’t offer the Astros anything they can’t likely get from Wade. Moniak has value as a platoon partner for Meyers if you think Moniak can handle CF. But neither of those guys should be expected to carry the offense. If other entrenched guys (Walker, Diaz, Altuve, Smith) don’t start producing the Astros are cooked regardless of what they do in CF/LF.
     
  5. IdStrosfan

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    You need to look at 2026 instead of careers. Players change greatly over time.

    I HATE Adell and would never want him on my Astros. Besides, he hits right-handed so doesn't fit. (I Just kept including him from previous posts in the thread)

    But he has a .739 OPS outside of Anaheim this year and .750 last year. That is a considerable improvement over the guys who play LF now.

    Moniak has a .771 OPS away from Coors this year and a 1.022 OPS vs RH pitching. I don't know how to sort both RHP and away but it is almost certainly .771 or better.

    Nootbar is my choice but there is no world where Moniak is not a huge upgrade to this team.
     
  6. sealclubber1016

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    Moniak has 165 PA this season, and only 71 away from Coors field

    Brice Matthews has an .857 OPS in 107 PA away from MMP, that's one half of an all star platoon right there. Forgive me if I don't put too much stock in small sample sizes.

    Moniak could have a decent use as a platoon partner...while we likely sacrifice defense. Or it could also work out just as well as Sanchez did for us last season. This all deck chair shuffling, the likely cone of possibility for the team will not change noticeably with these possible fringy upgrades. There's the very real possibility that Moniak will be a not good player for us in half a season, or that Meyers will be pretty good for half a season. We've seen both happen.
     
  7. Snake Diggit

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    An “All-In” trade deadline:

    Astros get:
    CF Byron Buxton
    SP Joe Ryan
    $3M (2026)

    Twins get:
    OF Cam Smith
    OF/2B Brice Matthews
    P Ethan Pecko
    P Mike Burrows

    Astros get:
    OF Mickey Moniak
    RP Antonio Senzatela
    $4M

    Rockies get:
    OF Joey Loperfido
    P Bryce Mayer
    PTBNL

    Rays get:
    RP Bryan Abreu

    Astros get:
    PTBNL

    Mets get:
    OF Taylor Trammell

    Astros get:
    PTBNL

    resulting roster:
    CF Buxton
    SS Pena
    DH Alvarez
    3B Paredes
    RF Moniak
    1B Walker
    2B Altuve
    LF Wade
    C Diaz
    Bench: Allen, Vazquez, Shewmake, Meyers
    SP: Brown, Ryan, Lambert, Arrighetti, Imai, Javier
    RP: Hader, Senzatela, King, Okert, De Los Santos, Pearson, Teng

    IL: Walter, McCullers
    Optioned: Blanco, Blubaugh, Gordon, Alexander, Ullola, Santa, VanWey, Wesneski, Sousa, Dezenzo, Cole, Price, Whitcomb, Delgado
     
    #3707 Snake Diggit, Jun 23, 2026 at 11:03 AM
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  8. Htown Stros

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    That’s not necessarily true as Adell has crushed LHP and Wade certainly isn’t going to provide that. No one on this roster outside of Yordan has even been close to Adell against LHP since the start of last season.

    I doubt he would be happy in a platoon situation though so doesn’t really matter.
     
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  9. Htown Stros

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    Not sure how realistic Buxton is but they have said they are open to moving Jeffers. Definitely wouldn’t be opposed to getting off the Yainer train if they do decide to go for it.
     
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    Either Cam or Matthews should be on the table when it comes to adding an OF at the deadline.
     
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    Yep and this is on Dana and his failures in trades, scouting. I said in spring training that the only hope for this offense was to trade for an OF bat and hope that Cam and Diaz came around. Dana chose to do nothing.

    Thing is, with Wade coming back and platooning with either Matthews or Cam, if they were to trade for an avg to slightly above avg hitting OF the offense would be playoff worthy.
     
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    Those are the 2 best outfielders currently on this team and also most likely to be the best in 2027-2030.

    Of course they aren't untouchable but if you are actively shopping them then you either need 2 OF instead of 1, or just give up on 2026.

    And if you are giving up on 2026, its dumb to use young cheap players with 5+ years of control as your trade assets.

    I am not particularly attached and, in a vacuum, I don't care if they are traded but IMO they are not the ones you try to trade away.
     
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    Depends on how you see them as players in the future. I'm not as high on either one of them as most on here. They will become solid everyday players in time. But not star level players. I see them at best on the Larnich, Nootbar level players eventually. So I would have no problem trading either one of these guys. Which one do you think will become the better player?
     
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    I don't know how feasible it is. I guess it depends on if the twins want to win now or later. That being said, I would probably do it.
     
  15. Snake Diggit

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    I don’t think the Twins would do that deal even though I think it’s a good value for them. If they trade Buxton/Ryan it will be in separate trades and they’ll be looking for more traditional prospects for Buxton, headlined by somebody in the current MLB Top 30, which the Astros can’t offer. But you never know.
     
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  16. Snake Diggit

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    Certain sellers: Rockies, Giants
    Likely sellers: Red Sox, Mets, Angels, Royals, Tigers
    Leaning sellers: Reds, Orioles, Twins
    On the fence: A’s, Rangers, Astros, Marlins, Nats, Pirates, Diamondbacks

    Players of interest from those first 3 groups:
    OF Mickey Moniak
    OF Jung Hoo Lee
    OF Jarren Duran
    OF JJ Bleday
    OF Trevor Larnach
    OF Luis Robert Jr.
    OF Kerry Carpenter
    IF/OF Brett Baty
    IF/OF Mark Vientos
    IF/OF Kody Clemens
    1B/OF Josh Bell
    1B/OF Nathanial Lowe
    C Victor Caratini

    SP Robbie Ray
    SP Sonny Gray
    SP Trevor Rogers
    SP Freddy Peralta
    SP Kodai Senga
    SP Yusei Kikuchi
    SP Seth Lugo
    SP Kris Bubic
    SP Brady Singer
    SP Jack Flaherty
    SP Tarik Skubal
    SP Casey Mize
    SP Joe Ryan
    SP Bailey Ober
    SP Dean Kremer

    RP Antonio Senzatela
    RP Luke Weaver
    RP Devin Williams
    RP Matt Strahm
    RP Kyle Finnegan
    RP Kenley Jansen
    RP Burch Smith
    RP Ryan Helsley
    RP Tejay Antone
    RP Caleb Ferguson
    RP Tyler Wells
    RP Andrew Kittredge
    RP Yennier Cano
    RP Anthony Banda
    RP Taylor Rogers
     
  17. Htown Stros

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    Unless something changes, it looks like there is going to be a greater amount of quality SPs than OF bats on the market. That’s actually a pretty great list of rental starters. The Yankees, Rays, Mariners, Brewers, Dodgers, and Phillies don’t really have a huge need for SP either so the cost could actually be somewhat reasonable.

    A lefty starter would be ideal just to balance out the looks we are giving a team during a playoff series. Bubic, Rogers or Ray would be a great addition. Rogers seems to finally be figuring it out this season after being absolutely dominant last season.
     
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  18. rockbox

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    Maybe if we tell them that they don't have to eat their portion of Correa's salary, they would do it. I know they want to cut payroll.
     
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    Yes the market might play to Houston’s favor. It might be a buyer’s market for non-elite SP. I also don’t think the market will be too pricey for a guy like Moniak.

    The likely buyers needs are generally pretty narrow:

    Yankees: none, they may add to their bullpen
    Rays: CF, SS, 2B, RP, TOR
    Jays: SS, TOR
    White Sox: RP, TOR
    Guardians: CF
    Mariners: 3B
    Braves: DH
    Phillies: RF, CF, 3B, BOR, RP
    Brewers: 3B, BOR
    Cardinals: TOR, 3B, C, CF, RP
    Cubs: TOR, DH, BOR
    Dodgers: none, they may add to their bullpen
    Padres: C, DH, TOR, 2B

    It’s a shame Correa isn’t healthy, they could probably get a haul for Paredes or Pena.
     
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  20. Snake Diggit

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    A couple of more realistic hypotheticals:

    Astros get:
    SP Trevor Rogers
    $2M

    Orioles get:
    P Cole Hertzler
    C Will Bush
    P Jagger Beck

    Astros get:
    OF Mickey Moniak

    Rockies get:
    OF Lucas Spence
    P Jackson Nezuh
    P Brandon McPherson

    Resulting roster:
    SS Pena
    DH Alvarez
    3B Paredes
    CF Moniak
    1B Walker
    2B Altuve
    LF Wade
    RF Smith
    C Diaz
    Bench: Allen, Meyers, Vazquez, Dezenzo
    SP: Brown, Rogers, Imai, Lambert, Arrighetti, Javier
    RP: Hader, King, Teng, Okert, De Los Santos, Abreu, Blanco
     
    #3720 Snake Diggit, Jun 24, 2026 at 2:09 PM
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