[War] Trump surrenders to Iran in a humiliating defeat

I don't believe this to be true and really this is the crux of this debate. But now that we're at war with them we should finish them by any means necessary.

 

You don't think we can takeout their power and Kharg Island immediately?

If you've seen the bombing missions we can easily do this from 40,000 feet. They have no Air Force to defend high flying planes.

 

Kharg Island doesn't even produce oil. You do not know what you are talking about.

You often have incorrect facts and think in simplistic terms and assume the real world is like that. It's not.

 

Occupy Kharg Island? Yes. Destroy the oil infrastructure on the island? Yes. Keep it without Vietnam level death tolls? No.
Destroy all of Irans electrical grid? Also no. Even if we tried.

 

I don't respond to posters that name call. It shows a lack of intelligence on your part

 

Good luck with that. After months of bombing by the US and Israel, the majority of Iran's missiles are still intact.

 

But, you see, Bibi said they were close in
~~2011~~ ~~2012~~ ~~2013~~ ~~2014~~ ~~2015~~ ~~2016~~ ~~2017~~ ~~2018~~ ~~2019~~ ~~2020~~ ~~2021~~ ~~2022~~ ~~2023~~ ~~2024~~ ~~2025~~ 2026 so it must be true

 

I thought the war was over and the Strait was open again.

Like it was before the war.

Noramerica has never been at war with Subpersia.

Normerica has always been at war with Subpersia.

 

@raining threes
To put your ambitions of electricity destruction into perspective, Iran has the area of California, Oregon, Nevada, Utah and Arizona combined. and has 30 million more people than all those states, It’s a bigger area than the UK France and Germany combined.

Iran is a massive country.

 

You would not believe your eyes
If ten million Iranian UAVs
Light up the world as I fell asleep

 

When you say "they" could starve to death, you mean the entire population of Iran, right?

 

My objection would simply be his sheer bloodthirstiness. Hopefully it is just the insulation of being anonymous on the internet and he doesn't have this level of disregard for the sanctity of life IRL. I understand the concept of fighting to win and of total war. But he's endorsing a level of terrorism and genocide even the Nazis would have balked at.

 

He IS what he claims the non-existent mass-murdering terrorists are. Then, on top of that, his solutions are all silly. Not only would he be a mass murderer, it doesn't accomplish what he thinks it would. Folly after folly, but extremely sure-minded.

 

Rocket River

 

learn to read. there's no debate. we started a war for nothing. and stop calling for a genocide. you sound insane.

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsr...4061-ata-hpsci-opening-statement-as-delivered

Former DNI Gabbard told lawmakers that U.S. spy agencies found no evidence that Iran’s Supreme Leader had reauthorized the dormant nuclear weapons program, despite Tehran enriching uranium to higher levels.

During the Senate Worldwide Threats hearing, it was revealed that the intelligence community assessed Iran had made no efforts to rebuild its nuclear enrichment capabilities following earlier military strikes

 

fun fact: The Obama administration transferred $1.7 billion to Iran in 2016 to settle a decades-old, pre-1979 tribunal case over a failed military equipment purchase. It consisted of a $400 million original trust fund principal and $1.3 billion in interest.

meanwhile trump is handing out 300x more to fix a country he blew up for no reason.

I cannot believe half the country is this stupid. howwww.